Queen Galfrey's full name?


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Good day everyone,

I have a simple doubt regarding our setting for wrath of the righteous. What's Queen Galfrey's full name? Is Galfrey her surname, or given name?

Hope someone can enlighten me. Thanks in advance.

Why am I asking this?:
All of my players are using the background generator from Ultimate Campaign in order to generate their back stories. One of them happen to have rolled Noble Born, and been lucky enough to have rolled Regent as his noble rank. This effectively makes him the prince of Mendev, and son of Queen Galfrey. So, knowing at least her full name is kind of a necessity, even if it's not that big of a deal to most people.

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Her full name is just Galfrey.

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Oh...I see. No mean to pry on it much, but why was it so? Most other NPCs in the WotR path seem to have both given names and surnames. Except for the elf, but I assume that's a racial thing.

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It's just Galfrey because Erik Mona said so, pretty much. She's his creation, after all.

When I was statting her up for part 4 of Wrath of the Righteous, I asked him this same question and that was his answer.

Not everyone on Golarion has two names, in any case. Galfrey is one of them.


But her name is only Galfrey for some oath of humility?
Is quite strange to find a noble and queen without surname.

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Could be "Galfrey of Mendev".
I might be wrong, but I believe most of the contemporary european monarchs use this style.

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James Jacobs wrote:

It's just Galfrey because Erik Mona said so, pretty much. She's his creation, after all.

When I was statting her up for part 4 of Wrath of the Righteous, I asked him this same question and that was his answer.

Not everyone on Golarion has two names, in any case. Galfrey is one of them.

Thanks James. Found it kinda confusing at first, is not every day that you find a queen without a surname.

Espagnoll wrote:

But her name is only Galfrey for some oath of humility?

Is quite strange to find a noble and queen without surname.

Yeah, I though that too. I suppose it would be easier to add a given name to her and leave Galfrey as her surname in a situation such as mine.

Paladinosaur wrote:

Could be "Galfrey of Mendev".

I might be wrong, but I believe most of the contemporary european monarchs use this style.

In which case, her son would be called Prince "given name" of Mendev?


James Jacobs wrote:

It's just Galfrey because Erik Mona said so, pretty much. She's his creation, after all.

When I was statting her up for part 4 of Wrath of the Righteous, I asked him this same question and that was his answer.

Oh thank you for this. My wife is wondering what I am laughing at.....

Story: Chris, my son, had Jacob, my grandson. One day Chris told me that he hated being told "because I said so" as a child and he would never say that to Jacob. Well, Jake was 2 or so, and being a pest as only a 2 year old can and Chris got frustrated and said "because I said so!". I broke down laughing, and my son looked at me and just said "I hate you" and then laughed. (cue Daffy Duck Your Despicable)

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Dulenheim wrote:
Paladinosaur wrote:

Could be "Galfrey of Mendev".

I might be wrong, but I believe most of the contemporary european monarchs use this style.
In which case, her son would be called Prince "given name" of Mendev?

Yes. For example, the Prince of Wales:

"His Royal Highness The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick... (etc.)"

Technically, he has no surname. Neither do William ("William Arthur Philip Louis") or Harry ("Henry Charles Albert David"). Or Anne, or a couple of others.

Note that the Queen declared those without agnatic succession use the surname Mountbatten-Windsor. When Harry was deployed, he used "Wales" as his surname for military purposes, making him "Captain Harry Wales" where relevant.


Probably just Her Majesty Queen Galfrey of Mendev.

Similar to the real-world Her Majesty Queen Margarethe II of Denmark. (She has no surname.)

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Espagnoll wrote:

But her name is only Galfrey for some oath of humility?

Is quite strange to find a noble and queen without surname.

I would even go as far as to say it's pretty unique.

Which helps to set her apart from the other queens in the world, which is pretty much the point.

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Why do I hear the Doctor Who theme every time her name is mentioned? :)

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Tim Statler wrote:

Why do I hear the Doctor Who theme every time her name is mentioned? :)

Because Erik is a huge fan of the show, and I know so little about it that I didn't know I should have protested when he named her? :P

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But be honest: Lisa S and Erik Mona, best bosses ever or what?


totally have dalek expys as an enemy in Iron Gods!

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Galfrey.

Like Cher.

Or Prince.

No last name required.


Debbie, Debbie Galfrey.


James Jacobs wrote:
Tim Statler wrote:

Why do I hear the Doctor Who theme every time her name is mentioned? :)

Because Erik is a huge fan of the show, and I know so little about it that I didn't know I should have protested when he named her? :P

Sure he had to do tons of "Will saves" and you guys had to "roll a lot of Diplomacy checks" for not let him write the queen as a Time Lady.

However, I wouldn't mind some subtle reference to the Doctor Who universe by making the PCs at some point of the campaign discover the queen is the survivor of an apocalyptic catastrophe from an alternate prime material plane.


Actually, her first name is Queen, and her last name is Galfrey. She was walking down the street one day and someone called her by her full name and an idiot of a noble was nearby, thought that was her title, and next thing she knew she was the ruler of her very own kingdom.

It says something about the power of proactive naming. Though I understand another family called their little boy "Queen" and rather than going into politics, he became a cross-dressing bard... ;)

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Espagnoll wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Tim Statler wrote:

Why do I hear the Doctor Who theme every time her name is mentioned? :)

Because Erik is a huge fan of the show, and I know so little about it that I didn't know I should have protested when he named her? :P

Sure he had to do tons of "Will saves" and you guys had to "roll a lot of Diplomacy checks" for not let him write the queen as a Time Lady.

However, I wouldn't mind some subtle reference to the Doctor Who universe by making the PCs at some point of the campaign discover the queen is the survivor of an apocalyptic catastrophe from an alternate prime material plane.

Actually... I was the one who made her super old and a Sun Orchid Elixir drinker. And not being a Dr. Who fan at all... it wasn't until quite recently that I realized Erik likely named her after a character in the show... be it consciously or unconsiously. Had I realized this when I was working on "The Worldwound" I would likely have rebuilt her history to have her take the crown much more recently so as to avoid these kinds of confusions entirely.

That's why Easter Eggs are trouble.


James Jacobs wrote:
Espagnoll wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
Tim Statler wrote:

Why do I hear the Doctor Who theme every time her name is mentioned? :)

Because Erik is a huge fan of the show, and I know so little about it that I didn't know I should have protested when he named her? :P

Sure he had to do tons of "Will saves" and you guys had to "roll a lot of Diplomacy checks" for not let him write the queen as a Time Lady.

However, I wouldn't mind some subtle reference to the Doctor Who universe by making the PCs at some point of the campaign discover the queen is the survivor of an apocalyptic catastrophe from an alternate prime material plane.

Actually... I was the one who made her super old and a Sun Orchid Elixir drinker. And not being a Dr. Who fan at all... it wasn't until quite recently that I realized Erik likely named her after a character in the show... be it consciously or unconsiously. Had I realized this when I was working on "The Worldwound" I would likely have rebuilt her history to have her take the crown much more recently so as to avoid these kinds of confusions entirely.

That's why Easter Eggs are trouble.

Not a character but a place. Gallifrey is the home world of the race which The Doctor belongs, the Time Lords.

And how is the queen didn't suffer a mental breakdown if she has been around for so many years? Witnessing the failure of four crusades and how the Worldwound as treated the crusaders (mutation, corruption, undead...) as well as the constant decrease of real crusaders for have instead the increase of low templars sure would had some effect on her mind.

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That's how you get your Doctor Who in Pathfinder. Of course, you need to have levels in the "Erik Mona" prestige class, and you gotta be ready for a big bad angry T-rex greeting you in the office the next day.


Espagnoll, maybe Queen Galfrey is one of those exceptional people who is able to cope with this level of adversity. As for the Crusades... while they were a failure in driving BACK the demons of the Worldwound... they did keep them from overwhelming her nation. So in that... it was a success. You take your victories where you can, when you can.

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Bah, it's not an Easter Egg, in any event. Her name merely sounds a bit like Gallifrey, the planet where Doctor Who comes from. It's definitely not something to think too long on, in any event.


so, to the OP:

I guess you could let the player name his character "Bob Galfreyson" and roll on...

;)

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Espagnoll wrote:
And how is the queen didn't suffer a mental breakdown if she has been around for so many years? Witnessing the failure of four crusades and how the Worldwound as treated the crusaders (mutation, corruption, undead...) as well as the constant decrease of real crusaders for have instead the increase of low templars sure would had some effect on her mind.

The fact that she is who she is. Her strength of faith and of her character is what's kept her from breaking down where a lesser person would have. And that strength of faith and character is, ironically, the exact reason why the church is so unwilling to switch leaders, because they know that chances are VERY good they won't be as solid a leader as Galfrey.

But also, she IS beginning to bow under the pressure, just a little. More info to come, particularly in part 4 of Wrath of the Righteous.


James Jacobs wrote:
Espagnoll wrote:
And how is the queen didn't suffer a mental breakdown if she has been around for so many years? Witnessing the failure of four crusades and how the Worldwound as treated the crusaders (mutation, corruption, undead...) as well as the constant decrease of real crusaders for have instead the increase of low templars sure would had some effect on her mind.

The fact that she is who she is. Her strength of faith and of her character is what's kept her from breaking down where a lesser person would have. And that strength of faith and character is, ironically, the exact reason why the church is so unwilling to switch leaders, because they know that chances are VERY good they won't be as solid a leader as Galfrey.

But also, she IS beginning to bow under the pressure, just a little. More info to come, particularly in part 4 of Wrath of the Righteous.

I am going to do a wild guess and say Queen Galfrey is going to become the replacement for a certain CR15 outsider associated with her goddess.

Jokes a side, a character like her is just ready to fall into temptation with the PCs around. Being old as her, ruling, commanding the crusaders and she finds a group of misfits end with mythic power.
Another ruler, no matter how good aligned she/he is, would end succumbing to envy and frustration: "Why them and not I? I didn't sacrifice enough, I didn't bring justice and hold the damned?"
Queen Galfrey is about to went full Boromir here.


Personally? If I were the ruler of a nation at war with demonic forces? I'd be thanking my lucky star I was NOT empowered with Mythic abilities because I'd be honor-bound to lead from the front line to utilize those abilities. But let's be honest about this. I'd be the leader of a nation that needs my abilities in order to keep all the factions working together. So my fighting on the front lines would in fact be a detriment because I'd be best suited BEHIND the lines.

I get the feeling Queen Galfrey is a wise woman. As such, I doubt she'll let jealousy take root because she'd realize that for the good of her country, she cannot be the one invading the Worldwound... especially with the widespread failure of the Wards that kept the Demons out.

Or to put it another way... Boromir was not a wise man. He proved weak-willed enough for the Ring to work its way into his heart. Aragorn was stronger-willed, despite his lineage to Isildur. He chose not to pursue the Ring. Galfrey is more akin to Aragorn than Boromir.


Tangent101 wrote:

Personally? If I were the ruler of a nation at war with demonic forces? I'd be thanking my lucky star I was NOT empowered with Mythic abilities because I'd be honor-bound to lead from the front line to utilize those abilities. But let's be honest about this. I'd be the leader of a nation that needs my abilities in order to keep all the factions working together. So my fighting on the front lines would in fact be a detriment because I'd be best suited BEHIND the lines.

I get the feeling Queen Galfrey is a wise woman. As such, I doubt she'll let jealousy take root because she'd realize that for the good of her country, she cannot be the one invading the Worldwound... especially with the widespread failure of the Wards that kept the Demons out.

Or to put it another way... Boromir was not a wise man. He proved weak-willed enough for the Ring to work its way into his heart. Aragorn was stronger-willed, despite his lineage to Isildur. He chose not to pursue the Ring. Galfrey is more akin to Aragorn than Boromir.

Aragon was a Dunedain which previous adventuring career was patrol the wilderness of Arnor with another rangers, an area which cannot compare in danger with the border of Mordor once the Witch King ceased to rule Angmar. Boromir was a commander of the gondorian armies which clashed constantly against the legions of Mordor, and usually got involved in a Stalingrad like scenario in Osgiliath.

Aragon knew about the horrors of Mordor trough books and lore tell by his elven preceptors in Lorien, Boromir lived them, see them in action. Boromir wasn't unwise, was desperate.
Queen Galfrey, in my opinion, should suffer the same hopeless despair, hiding it because she is aware she is a symbol, a cornerstone of the crusades. In public she still plays the role of being full of faith in the victory of the Mendevian crusaders, but deep in her being, sure she is starting to question herself if really the legions of the Abyss are stoppable be faithful humanoids or if the gods have real power to stop them (or if they really care about mortals).


In your game you can play it up as such. I suspect the AP itself won't. If it does, I'll include it in the game. I'm just giving my reasoning as to why I suspect she won't and giving an analogy.

BTW, Aragorn went into the Mines of Moria prior to the Fellowship, he fought in Gondor under a pseudonym against the forces of Mordor, he singlehandedly hunted down and captured Gollum on the borders of Mordor, and the threats in the North were not "lesser" than those that Gondor itself faced. Trust me, he was not some naive sheltered lad of 80 years.

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Wait a second...just how old is queen Galfrey?


Dude! You never ask a lady her age! Tsk... ;)


Dulenheim wrote:
Wait a second...just how old is queen Galfrey?

That's what I was wondering actually. I didn't realise she's a Sun Orchid Elixir drinker.


Tangent101 wrote:
Dude! You never ask a lady her age! Tsk... ;)

thats what i've been doing wrong! D'oh!

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If she's been alive since the first crusade (if she was born the same year it started) she should be over 85...


Dulenheim wrote:
If she's been alive since the first crusade (if she was born the same year it started) she should be over 85...

Timelines always confuse me with Golarion. I keep meaning to look for a simple list of all the major events so I can figure it all out in case my players ever ask me about it.

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Tinkergoth wrote:
Dulenheim wrote:
If she's been alive since the first crusade (if she was born the same year it started) she should be over 85...
Timelines always confuse me with Golarion. I keep meaning to look for a simple list of all the major events so I can figure it all out in case my players ever ask me about it.

It's particularly hard if you try to digest it all at once. One country has many events happening in a very short spam of time.

It doesn't help that we are...well, humans. We tend to see the world and the events around us a lot different than, say, a dwarf. A dwarf wouldn't even be that old at 85. However, in human years, that's quite ancient.


Dulenheim wrote:
Tinkergoth wrote:
Dulenheim wrote:
If she's been alive since the first crusade (if she was born the same year it started) she should be over 85...
Timelines always confuse me with Golarion. I keep meaning to look for a simple list of all the major events so I can figure it all out in case my players ever ask me about it.

It's particularly hard if you try to digest it all at once. One country has many events happening in a very short spam of time.

It doesn't help that we are...well, humans. We tend to see the world and the events around us a lot different than, say, a dwarf. A dwarf wouldn't even be that old at 85. However, in human years, that's quite ancient.

True enough. My group tends to try and ignore timelines and so on, but occasionally the players do question when something is happening in relation to other games (for example, none of them have played Rise of the Runelords yet, Curse of the Crimson Throne or Second Darkness, but were wondering about the events that led to Shattered Star).

James' use of the term "super old" is making me wonder if she might have been a reasonable age even during the first crusade.


She's well over 100. I believe she took the throne in 4601 and since this is the year 4713, she's been in power for 112 years. Considering that she was most likely an adult when she took power I'd place her age at about 140+.

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