Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?


Rules Questions


Does it matter which way I apply templates?

If you think it does which order seems right to you?


Off the top of my head I don't know if the order would make a difference.

If it does, I would suggest applying them in the order that makes sense for the creature.

1. A giant gecko got turned undead: Apply giant first.

2. An undead gecko got embiggened: Apply skeleton first.

Scarab Sages

I would apply the skeleton template first, then the advanced. The reason for this is that the skeleton template sets the charisma for the creature to a specific value and the advanced template adds 4 to all ability scores. If you were to apply advanced first, you would lose the increased 2 HP per HD from the advanced template.

Also, it depends on the purpose you're going for. If this is to design a monster and you want to use the CR adjustment for those templates to tailor your encounter then apply as I described above. However, if this is coming up in play where someone is casting animate dead on a corpse of an advanced giant gecko, then apply the skeleton template second, on top of the base creature (advanced giant gecko).


Templates have always used an order of application, some templates can disqualify others on the same base creature.

Sometimes templates can be more effective in a certain order (as covered in the previous post).

The short answer is, it depends.

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