paizo.com Recent Posts in Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?paizo.com Recent Posts in Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?2013-09-06T02:07:02Z2013-09-06T02:07:02ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?Skylancer4https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q4s2?Is-an-Advanced-Giant-Gecko-Skeleton-the-same#42013-09-06T02:26:50Z2013-09-06T02:26:50Z<p>Templates have always used an order of application, some templates can disqualify others on the same base creature.</p>
<p>Sometimes templates can be more effective in a certain order (as covered in the previous post).</p>
<p>The short answer is, it depends.</p>Templates have always used an order of application, some templates can disqualify others on the same base creature.
Sometimes templates can be more effective in a certain order (as covered in the previous post).
The short answer is, it depends.Skylancer42013-09-06T02:26:50ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?Raissehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q4s2?Is-an-Advanced-Giant-Gecko-Skeleton-the-same#32013-09-06T02:19:39Z2013-09-06T02:19:39Z<p>I would apply the skeleton template first, then the advanced. The reason for this is that the skeleton template sets the charisma for the creature to a specific value and the advanced template adds 4 to all ability scores. If you were to apply advanced first, you would lose the increased 2 HP per HD from the advanced template.</p>
<p>Also, it depends on the purpose you're going for. If this is to design a monster and you want to use the CR adjustment for those templates to tailor your encounter then apply as I described above. However, if this is coming up in play where someone is casting animate dead on a corpse of an advanced giant gecko, then apply the skeleton template second, on top of the base creature (advanced giant gecko).</p>I would apply the skeleton template first, then the advanced. The reason for this is that the skeleton template sets the charisma for the creature to a specific value and the advanced template adds 4 to all ability scores. If you were to apply advanced first, you would lose the increased 2 HP per HD from the advanced template.
Also, it depends on the purpose you're going for. If this is to design a monster and you want to use the CR adjustment for those templates to tailor your encounter...Raisse2013-09-06T02:19:39ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?Umbral Reaverhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q4s2?Is-an-Advanced-Giant-Gecko-Skeleton-the-same#22013-09-06T02:16:37Z2013-09-06T02:16:37Z<p>Off the top of my head I don't know if the order would make a difference.</p>
<p>If it does, I would suggest applying them in the order that makes sense for the creature.</p>
<p>1. A giant gecko got turned undead: Apply giant first.</p>
<p>2. An undead gecko got embiggened: Apply skeleton first.</p>Off the top of my head I don't know if the order would make a difference.
If it does, I would suggest applying them in the order that makes sense for the creature.
1. A giant gecko got turned undead: Apply giant first.
2. An undead gecko got embiggened: Apply skeleton first.Umbral Reaver2013-09-06T02:16:37ZForums: Rules Questions: Is an Advanced Giant Gecko Skeleton the same as a Giant Gecko Advanced Skeleton?Expostfactohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q4s2?Is-an-Advanced-Giant-Gecko-Skeleton-the-same#12013-09-06T02:07:02Z2013-09-06T02:07:02Z<p>Does it matter which way I apply templates?</p>
<p>If you think it does which order seems right to you?</p>Does it matter which way I apply templates?
If you think it does which order seems right to you?Expostfacto2013-09-06T02:07:02Z