Kthulhu |
thegreenteagamer wrote:...and don't give me that "well that's because they're trying to keep in on topic." Succubus in a Grapple is in the Rules Questions forum still, and it hasn't been a rules question since page 1. It's just dozens of pages of innuendo jokes. FaWtL has no discernable topic. I can point out dozens upon dozens upon dozens of threads that go off topic and keep going. It's not until the argument gets personal or someone brings up a right-wing non-economic point (which ALWAYS leads to a personal attack) that feathers get ruffled and locks happenIts pretty rare to find a white wing "point" that isn't a thinly veiled ad hom and insult.
You misspelled left.
DrDeth |
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The thing about 'cis' is that it fills a needed language niche. I remember when the term was first coming into use and the only real competition it had was non-trans, which IMO is worse. (It's bad form to describe people by what they *aren't*.) 'Cis' being a term from organic chemistry was a short, elegant word that didn't have any baggage associated with it. It really was about as good as you were going to get.
All those things are true, but especially the words "*WAS*. "Cis" has now been hijacked by haters and bigots, it's become a pejorative that should not be used on these message boards or in polite conversation.
I know, it was a good term, but it's no longer usable in polite society.
Rynjin |
Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.
Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.
If you only support equality when marginalized people are nice to you, you don't support equality.
Straight people, white people, men, neurotypical people, etc. -- all of us who enjoy privilege in some fashion -- get the fair shake that privilege represents regardless of whether we're nice people, good people, pleasant people, well-behaved people, etc. And marginalized people deserve that fair shake, too, regardless of whether they talk in ways you like or are offended by.
If you're only supporting marginalized people when they behave in ways you like, you're abusing the privilege you have, because you're essentially using your supposed allyship as a carrot/stick to compel certain behavior from them: "Sure, I'll treat you like an equal--as long as you only speak in these ways."
It's not expecting any more than you expect of any other human being.
If I act like an a+$!#*@, I expect to be called out on it.
Coddling gay/trans/whatever people by not treating them the same way is ridiculous. It's not treating them as an equal. Which is the entire point.
Certainly, I'll defend LGBTQ rights and advancement regardless of the dickery some individuals show.
Doesn't mean I have to keep supporting that specific individual. Because they're a dick.
It works the same way with everything else. Doesn't matter WHAT you're arguing for. If you act like a prick, you drive people away.
knightnday |
BigNorseWolf wrote:You misspelled left.thegreenteagamer wrote:...and don't give me that "well that's because they're trying to keep in on topic." Succubus in a Grapple is in the Rules Questions forum still, and it hasn't been a rules question since page 1. It's just dozens of pages of innuendo jokes. FaWtL has no discernable topic. I can point out dozens upon dozens upon dozens of threads that go off topic and keep going. It's not until the argument gets personal or someone brings up a right-wing non-economic point (which ALWAYS leads to a personal attack) that feathers get ruffled and locks happenIts pretty rare to find a white wing "point" that isn't a thinly veiled ad hom and insult.
A short NSFW bit from the deceased Richard Jeni about politics HERE where he shows the extremes of all three sides (left, right, center).
kyrt-ryder |
kyrt-ryder wrote:Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.
It's kind of funny. Once a religious group of a certain size stops oppressing those of other faiths/creeds, it seems to start receiving karmic retribution... only the oppressors are long dead.
Rynjin |
Rynjin wrote:It's kind of funny. Once a religious group of a certain size stops oppressing those of other faiths/creeds, it seems to start receiving karmic retribution... only the oppressors are long dead.kyrt-ryder wrote:Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.
When did this religious group stop oppressing other faiths and creeds?
kyrt-ryder |
kyrt-ryder wrote:When did this religious group stop oppressing other faiths and creeds?Rynjin wrote:It's kind of funny. Once a religious group of a certain size stops oppressing those of other faiths/creeds, it seems to start receiving karmic retribution... only the oppressors are long dead.kyrt-ryder wrote:Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.
As far as I'm aware sometime during the mid 20th century.
pH unbalanced |
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pH unbalanced wrote:The thing about 'cis' is that it fills a needed language niche. I remember when the term was first coming into use and the only real competition it had was non-trans, which IMO is worse. (It's bad form to describe people by what they *aren't*.) 'Cis' being a term from organic chemistry was a short, elegant word that didn't have any baggage associated with it. It really was about as good as you were going to get.All those things are true, but especially the words "*WAS*. "Cis" has now been hijacked by haters and bigots, it's become a pejorative that should not be used on these message boards or in polite conversation.
I know, it was a good term, but it's no longer usable in polite society.
I hereby empower you to coin your own term.
I'm pro-self-naming.
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pH unbalanced wrote:The thing about 'cis' is that it fills a needed language niche. I remember when the term was first coming into use and the only real competition it had was non-trans, which IMO is worse. (It's bad form to describe people by what they *aren't*.) 'Cis' being a term from organic chemistry was a short, elegant word that didn't have any baggage associated with it. It really was about as good as you were going to get.All those things are true, but especially the words "*WAS*. "Cis" has now been hijacked by haters and bigots, it's become a pejorative that should not be used on these message boards or in polite conversation.
I know, it was a good term, but it's no longer usable in polite society.
And when did that happen? About the time it came into widespread use? (insofar as it's in widespread use, I suspect the most common reaction to it would be "What?", rather than "Don't insult me")
Feel free to suggest and popularize an alternative. I suggest not using something like "normal", since that's the point of having the term in the first place.
Rynjin |
Rynjin wrote:As far as I'm aware sometime during the mid 20th century.kyrt-ryder wrote:When did this religious group stop oppressing other faiths and creeds?Rynjin wrote:It's kind of funny. Once a religious group of a certain size stops oppressing those of other faiths/creeds, it seems to start receiving karmic retribution... only the oppressors are long dead.kyrt-ryder wrote:Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.
You serious?
And even if that were true (which a quick look at the US political system would belie), people who were alive in the 1950's are still alive today, you know?
kyrt-ryder |
kyrt-ryder wrote:Rynjin wrote:As far as I'm aware sometime during the mid 20th century.kyrt-ryder wrote:When did this religious group stop oppressing other faiths and creeds?Rynjin wrote:It's kind of funny. Once a religious group of a certain size stops oppressing those of other faiths/creeds, it seems to start receiving karmic retribution... only the oppressors are long dead.kyrt-ryder wrote:Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.You serious?
And even if that were true (which a quick look at the US political system would belie), people who were alive in the 1950's are still alive today, you know?
By people, are you including policy makers?
knightnday |
DrDeth wrote:pH unbalanced wrote:The thing about 'cis' is that it fills a needed language niche. I remember when the term was first coming into use and the only real competition it had was non-trans, which IMO is worse. (It's bad form to describe people by what they *aren't*.) 'Cis' being a term from organic chemistry was a short, elegant word that didn't have any baggage associated with it. It really was about as good as you were going to get.All those things are true, but especially the words "*WAS*. "Cis" has now been hijacked by haters and bigots, it's become a pejorative that should not be used on these message boards or in polite conversation.
I know, it was a good term, but it's no longer usable in polite society.
And when did that happen? About the time it came into widespread use? (insofar as it's in widespread use, I suspect the most common reaction to it would be "What?", rather than "Don't insult me")
Feel free to suggest and popularize an alternative. I suggest not using something like "normal", since that's the point of having the term in the first place.
As long as it doesn't involve taking regular words and replacing letters with y or i. Or z. Or x. It reminds me of 90s comics with X-TREME and 37 extra pouches per character. I have a hatred for boi, grrl, womyn, and a few other words. I don't know why, something about them make me want to shake them till the letters act right.
Rynjin |
Rynjin wrote:By people, are you including policy makers?kyrt-ryder wrote:Rynjin wrote:As far as I'm aware sometime during the mid 20th century.kyrt-ryder wrote:When did this religious group stop oppressing other faiths and creeds?Rynjin wrote:It's kind of funny. Once a religious group of a certain size stops oppressing those of other faiths/creeds, it seems to start receiving karmic retribution... only the oppressors are long dead.kyrt-ryder wrote:Excuse me while I cry a river for the poor oppressed billions.Rynjin wrote:I find it hilarious that you feel the need to do that. As if right wing fundamentalist Christians are some kind of oppressed minority who need to show solidarity.In certain social circles and environments said group actually is an oppressed group- minority or not.You serious?
And even if that were true (which a quick look at the US political system would belie), people who were alive in the 1950's are still alive today, you know?
Lots of Congressmen pushing 70 (or even 80 in some cases) right now.
A good half of Supreme Court judges are over or near 80, and only one is below 60.
So, yes.
Goth Guru |
thegreenteagamer wrote:Anybody have a GOOD script I can use...?The Obvious Guy wrote:I find that alias to look a frickin' LOT like Nick Cage.captain yesterday wrote:I find people that use lots of aliases tiresome :-)I find this intensely hypocritical...
The cutouts 1
Road TripA street racer(Nicholas Cage) gets hired to drive a car from Philadelphia to Silicon Valley. Little does he know there is a prototype crime computer wired in under the hood. He does know he installed a nitro injection system attached to the fuel line(in case he needs to join a race).
He also doesn't know that one of the three people he found to share the gas and food costs is a programmed government assassin. Sally, who just wants to get to a job as head librarian in LA, will shoot anyone who gets called a "thug". One of the other passengers is a conspiracy nut with a blog who calls anything that threatens him a "CIA THUG!" Sally never sees the guns she hid in her clothes and luggage, nor does she remember head shotting bad guys.
The dashboard trip adviser keeps telling them when someone with a criminal record is nearby, and all kinds of mafia and terrorists keep coming after them. There are rest stops, rural gas stations, and a chop shop where they get the engine repaired along the way.
When the driver drops off the car, and they grab the computer to put it into mass production, the 4 cut outs take the money(The driver gets to keep the car), and just agree that they don't really want to know. The guy who hired the driver says,"As long as I can call you for jobs, I'll clean up your records." Thus setting up for the sequel.
Kalindlara Contributor |
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thejeff wrote:As long as it doesn't involve taking regular words and replacing letters with y or i. Or z. Or x. It reminds me of 90s comics with X-TREME and 37 extra pouches per character. I have a hatred for boi, grrl, womyn, and a few other words. I don't know why, something about them make me want to shake them till the letters act right.DrDeth wrote:pH unbalanced wrote:The thing about 'cis' is that it fills a needed language niche. I remember when the term was first coming into use and the only real competition it had was non-trans, which IMO is worse. (It's bad form to describe people by what they *aren't*.) 'Cis' being a term from organic chemistry was a short, elegant word that didn't have any baggage associated with it. It really was about as good as you were going to get.All those things are true, but especially the words "*WAS*. "Cis" has now been hijacked by haters and bigots, it's become a pejorative that should not be used on these message boards or in polite conversation.
I know, it was a good term, but it's no longer usable in polite society.
And when did that happen? About the time it came into widespread use? (insofar as it's in widespread use, I suspect the most common reaction to it would be "What?", rather than "Don't insult me")
Feel free to suggest and popularize an alternative. I suggest not using something like "normal", since that's the point of having the term in the first place.
Even as a firm supporter of LGBTetc ideas that would make some posters' heads spin, I'm with you here. ^_^
I'll respect whatever anyone wants to identify as... but part of me is always thinking, "That's not how you SPELL THAT." Can't seem to shake it...
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thejeff wrote:As long as it doesn't involve taking regular words and replacing letters with y or i. Or z. Or x. It reminds me of 90s comics with X-TREME and 37 extra pouches per character. I have a hatred for boi, grrl, womyn, and a few other words. I don't know why, something about them make me want to shake them till the letters act right.DrDeth wrote:pH unbalanced wrote:The thing about 'cis' is that it fills a needed language niche. I remember when the term was first coming into use and the only real competition it had was non-trans, which IMO is worse. (It's bad form to describe people by what they *aren't*.) 'Cis' being a term from organic chemistry was a short, elegant word that didn't have any baggage associated with it. It really was about as good as you were going to get.All those things are true, but especially the words "*WAS*. "Cis" has now been hijacked by haters and bigots, it's become a pejorative that should not be used on these message boards or in polite conversation.
I know, it was a good term, but it's no longer usable in polite society.
And when did that happen? About the time it came into widespread use? (insofar as it's in widespread use, I suspect the most common reaction to it would be "What?", rather than "Don't insult me")
Feel free to suggest and popularize an alternative. I suggest not using something like "normal", since that's the point of having the term in the first place.
I agree with you on serious discourse. But I really like playing with orthography when it's in the realm of art. You can do some cool transgressive stuff there.
I find it real horrorshow.
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Cheryl Tunt |
X-TREME!! Captain Yesterday wrote:You are all shunned for giving me the idea for this alias, I hope y'all can live with what you've just unleashed...I bet you like Skub....
Shunnn
If someone doesn't tell me what Skub is right this moment, I swear to god I will burn this whole thread to the ground... Who hoo! Outlaw Country!!
Cort Odekirk Technology Manager |
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Hey guys,
A thread like this is always going to wade a bit into dangerous waters but it's up to us to keep the discourse respectful. Everyone has a view point (right, left or otherwise) and we need to listen to and respond to that viewpoint in a manner that isn't confrontational or rude.
Not pulling out anyone in particular just a general observation that the thread has been getting more aggressive than we'd like. Lets keep it positive going forward.
captain yesterday |
Y'all is a legitimate contraction y'all.
Even some language experts agree the English language needs a proper 2nd person plural.
True true, but if someone without the right accent says it (like myself) it comes off as phony, now if someone from say Texas came up to Minnesotty and tried saying "You bet'cha!" To fit in he/she would get laughed out of Milt's General Store :-)
knightnday |
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Confession:"Having fun" is not an aegis that protects one from criticism of their character idea nor an instant approval of said idea. It may be fun for you to play an hyper-intelligent flail snail rogue/witch with otherwise normal characters in the party; for other people and/or the GM, it is the beginning of a story about "that guy/girl".
Soilent |
Confession:"Having fun" is not an aegis that protects one from criticism of their character idea nor an instant approval of said idea. It may be fun for you to play an hyper-intelligent flail snail rogue/witch with otherwise normal characters in the party; for other people and/or the GM, it is the beginning of a story about "that guy/girl".
How dare you?
I legitimately want to play a flail snail Cavalier, and you're intruding upon my rights!