
krang65 |
Can someone please clarify this for me.
" any character at that location can attempt one or more of the checks, as long as the character who encountered the bane attempts at least one of them. If the character who encounter the bane is not able to attempt at least one of these checks, the bane is undefeated and other players do not need to attempt checks against it."
1. Does this mean that if there are more than one party member at the same location everyone there can roll dice to defeat the bane?
Barriers such as trapped locker - dex disable 9 or str melee 11, or Collapsed ceiling - dex acrobatics con fort 8.
2. Do these traps require you to have all the text for the defeat condition or just one thing? EI: does the trapped locker need dex and disable, or just one or the other?

Mike Riley 302 |
krang65:
This rule only comes into play on a card that has an AND between checks (requiring 2 or more separate checks).
For those, the encountering character must attempt ONE of those checks, but any character can attempt the other checks. Each check, however, can only be attempted by a single character.
I have not yet encountered any cards that have AND checks.

Deekow |

I originally agreed with Mike Riley; however, I'm not seeing anything on the paragraph on page 10 indicating that others performing a check is exclusive to 'and' checks. There's no break in paragraph of explaining how encountering banes work, seemingly indicating that the whole paragraph applies to encountering banes in general (whether they have 'then', 'and' or not). I also can't find anything actually stating 'each check can only be attempted by a single character'.
If there's a source for the 'each check can only be attempted by a single character', that would clear it up. Otherwise, there's nothing stating exclusivity here, and thus the confusion.
I still tend to agree it's played as generally assumed; however, it would make partying together in a location make a lot more sense.

Deekow |

Heh, that's why I listed both in my inclusion. Question still stands though. There's nothing I can find that states, or even implies, that only a single character make make a skill check. I'm sure it's there, and I'm just missing it. But, having an actual source would go miles for cementing the ruling one way or the other.

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Your getting ahead of yourself when it comes to Banes and who can do checks. If you check the rules section under Encountering a Card, in the Bane paragraph, you can see that everything, up to where they start talking about THEN, states "You", meaning your PC, has to choose which check you are going to attempt and with which ability or skill.
It has been mentioned a number of times on here that other characters can only come into play if there is a THEN on the Bane. At that point only, can another character be involved but ultimately, your PC has to make one of the rolls. Good or bad for the other PCs. Now again the boards it has been mentioned that someone else can do the first roll and the active PC has to do the second roll, but in that case both of them have to take their consequences of failing either roll. But per the rules, if the active PC doesn't make the first roll, there is no need to actually do the second roll by the active PC or anyone else. The card just is Undefeated.

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Your getting ahead of yourself when it comes to Banes and who can do checks. If you check the rules section under Encountering a Card, in the Bane paragraph, you can see that everything, up to where they start talking about THEN, states "You", meaning your PC, has to choose which check you are going to attempt and with which ability or skill.
It has been mentioned a number of times on here that other characters can only come into play if there is a THEN on the Bane. At that point only, can another character be involved but ultimately, your PC has to make one of the rolls. Good or bad for the other PCs. Now again the boards it has been mentioned that someone else can do the first roll and the active PC has to do the second roll, but in that case both of them have to take their consequences of failing either roll. But per the rules, if the active PC doesn't make the first roll, there is no need to actually do the second roll by the active PC or anyone else. The card just is Undefeated.
Actually on page 10 of the rulebook it says " you must attempt both checks, even if you fail the first (because failure often has consequences)".
And to answer Deekow, the fact that when there are 2 rolls to defeat a monster, the character encountering it HAS to make at least one of the rolls, implies that if there is only one roll, that character has to do it.

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Your getting ahead of yourself when it comes to Banes and who can do checks. If you check the rules section under Encountering a Card, in the Bane paragraph, you can see that everything, up to where they start talking about THEN, states "You", meaning your PC, has to choose which check you are going to attempt and with which ability or skill.
TClifford is correct. Throughout this game, on both rules and cards, when we say "you", we really mean "you." (Keep in mind that the implied subject of an imperative, as in "Draw a card," is always you.)