Its official...Women have won the war


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The Exchange

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They no longer need us for breeding, just the heavy lifting


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I think she'll be okay lifting things on her own.


Men are officially obsolete.


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There was a war?


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I'm actually kind of happy to see this. If this is possible with human cells, it would open up child birth to couples that can't give birth but may not be interested in adoption. Although, it would certainly be way more expensive.


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More expensive NOW. Give it a while. Or not, since the next republican president the US gets will put a heap of red tape higher than Mt Rushmore on it.


True. Though then there are questions about health insurance coverage and such that already hurts my brain >,<

Still, I am happy to see this step in science.


Huh. Knew it would happen eventually but not this soon.

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Great, now we're going to have to start engineering bigger, scarier spiders to kill for us to stay useful.


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Oh, thank the heavens! Now I can focus on that physics PhD and stop studding myself!

Silver Crusade

And so the plot thickens...


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This was supposed to be kept under wraps for longer. Cursed Wikileaks!


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I make eggs all the time, who cares


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Lamontius wrote:
I make eggs all the time, who cares

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You're confusing Cooking eggs with making eggs...
Either way, can we get Mrs. Lamontius' corroboration on this statement?


wait what


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When are they going to make the artificial womb? Or maybe an android that gives birth ala armtitage 3?


yellowdingo wrote:
They no longer need us for breeding, just the heavy lifting

What's the difference?

Grand Lodge

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Males have just better hope they keep themselves amusing.


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Lamontius wrote:
wait what

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Can we get confirmation from your wife that you Cook Breakfast?

Jeez, get your mind out of the gutter...

Sczarni

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Mrs Lamontius, reporting!
He does, in fact, cook eggs!
Make eggs on the other hand..... That's stil my job.but geeze, as a biologist, that is getting crazy! :)
But,breakfast and coffee, Lamontius is the man!


Woooo!


Now, if I can just get Mr SnowJade to do that...

As for artificial womb technology, they're working on it. There was a segment on "Through the Wormhole" a couple of weeks ago (episode about human reproduction), and so far, fish have been artificially gestated. Yes, I know, but back in 1993, we (anthropologists) thought it would take at least twenty-five years to crack the human genome. All it took was someone inventing an app for that. Now the big questions are, who owns the information? What do they get to do with it, and under what circumstances? I'm very much afraid - really afraid - that Monsanto's actions are going to be a drop in the ocean.

As for needing you, yellowdingo, we'll always need you *peck*. Just go look up Warren Zevon's "Mister Bad Example" if you don't believe me.


I strongly believe the current legal structure does not have room for artificial wombs.


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I wish it did, though. Eric Idle in The Life of Brian would be pleased.


Just fight for his right to have a baby!

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SnowJade wrote:
Now the big questions are, who owns the information? What do they get to do with it, and under what circumstances? I'm very much afraid - really afraid - that Monsanto's actions are going to be a drop in the ocean.

Nah! Monsanto's actions are merely to create the needed legal groundwork.


oh man I am just blushing right down to my bones


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Lord Fyre wrote:
SnowJade wrote:
Now the big questions are, who owns the information? What do they get to do with it, and under what circumstances? I'm very much afraid - really afraid - that Monsanto's actions are going to be a drop in the ocean.
Nah! Monsanto's actions are merely to create the needed legal groundwork.

monsanto...just add a few letters and you will see it is an anagram of TO Serve MAN!!!


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SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE AGGGGGHHHHHH


What's all the fuss?


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:O
I...
...I do not want to put the lotion in the basket :(

Dark Archive

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Honestly OP was there ever any doubt who would win? I mean really? Come on...


I, for one, announce that I surrender and am ready to be taken to a reeducation center, deprogrammed, and used for stud service.


Lamontius wrote:

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I...
...I do not want to put the lotion in the basket :(

That was Buffalo Bill. I just want to eat your kidneys.


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Don't worry, we made sure we could clone sheep first.

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You guys actually thought we were still fighting?


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I, for one, welcome our new female overlords.


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I think this thread is interesting, especially in relation to this article: linky.

Basically, due to the sick gender norms we have in society, men rarely feel desired or wanted and thus feel they need to be needed, otherwise theyll just be dumped off somewhere or be made "obsolete". I think its partly due to how men get affirmation throughout life; all a mans life he feels his value is determined solely by his actions. Not that its any better for women, who get taught that their value is determined by how well they can please a man. But this fixation around performing well as the only means of value - and only performing intypically masculine ways like earning money or protectig from physical assailants - leads to a situation where as women have to earn income too and as the wage gap slowly decreases, and where physical assailants arent part of everyday life, men can feel that theyre not "needed"anymore -and equate this with being "obsolete".

But, interesting find with the link.


Man that was a depressing article that really hit home for me...

...I'm going to go have a good cry now...

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Sissyl wrote:
More expensive NOW. Give it a while. Or not, since the next republican president the US gets will put a heap of red tape higher than Mt Rushmore on it.

A few countries, including the US, may kill it with red tape.

It just means those who have the means will travel to countries that do not restrict the technology.

*It brings to mind the "Beggers in Spain" trilogy, where progressively strict restrictions on genetic engineering in America simply means the wealthy travel abroad.


Ilja wrote:
Basically, due to the sick gender norms we have in society

I don't think you can place this entirely on society. I'm certain that society exaggerates it, but its a pretty observable cross species drive for the male to help provide some of the extra energy that the females need to make the next generation.


I think the men need to realize this is the first step in their elimination and start fighting back! To war, and don't leave a single human...er...female standing!

Signed,

The cockroach on the computer


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Ilja wrote:
Basically, due to the sick gender norms we have in society
I don't think you can place this entirely on society. I'm certain that society exaggerates it, but its a pretty observable cross species drive for the male to help provide some of the extra energy that the females need to make the next generation.

Yeah, it exists throughout nature too, but yeah, society strengthens it several times over when other behaviours that are cross-species observable are strong taboos (incest and cannibalism, for example).

I don't see it as problematic that people help each other, in fact I think it's essential to society, the issue is when one's self-worth is tied directly to how ultimately _needed_ one is, and how society reinforces that. Not only is it hurtful to all those who are directly affected by it, but it also leads to strong opposition towards equality; the sentiment and statements in this thread, while tongue in cheek, is seriously used by anti-women's rights and have been since at least before women's suffrage (there's some great postcards floating around with basically the "men will be obsolete" punchline).


Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:

I, for one, announce that I surrender and am ready to be taken to a reeducation center, deprogrammed, and used for stud service.

Reeducation? Who said anything about reeducation?


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I'm not particularly interested in breeding or heavy lifting. For the later, I'm still waiting on my Silver Centurion briefcase-armor.

Yeah, now if we could fight the War to Stop Relatives from Asking Us When We're Gonna Have a Kid (or Another Kid), then I'm all in. I'll be in the Calvary leading the charge on We Need You Childless People to "Volunteer" to Work Harder 'Cause Parents Need Time Off, and We're Too Cheap to Staff Up for It.


Heheh. My mother already said that she accepted the thought that she won't become grandmother but as a male I am in advantageous circumstances as there is lesser pressure on men to have children than on women.


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Ilja wrote:
Yeah, it exists throughout nature too, but yeah, society strengthens it several times over when other behaviours that are cross-species observable are strong taboos (incest and cannibalism, for example).

Always hard to say how much of it(if any) is society.

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I don't see it as problematic that people help each other, in fact I think it's essential to society, the issue is when one's self-worth is tied directly to how ultimately _needed_ one is, and how society reinforces that. Not only is it hurtful to all those who are directly affected by it, but it also leads to strong opposition towards equality;

A huge problem with the gender wars are confusing equality for sameness. The genders aren't the same, so on one hand giving them the same thing doesn't work. On the other hand treating them differently involves so many incomparable variables that either side has a point baout being discriminated against.

Males are going to feel this way until trans humanism rolls around. I don't think there's any changing that.


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Today's Oglaf comic is so appropriate (NSFW).


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

I'm not particularly interested in breeding or heavy lifting. For the later, I'm still waiting on my Silver Centurion briefcase-armor.

Yeah, now if we could fight the War to Stop Relatives from Asking Us When We're Gonna Have a Kid (or Another Kid), then I'm all in. I'll be in the Calvary leading the charge on We Need You Childless People to "Volunteer" to Work Harder 'Cause Parents Need Time Off, and We're Too Cheap to Staff Up for It.

Can I join? I've got enough relatives and friends telling me I need kids that I'm starting to believe it myself!


This might be the best thing in the long run. Just sayin'.

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