Nine-section Whip w / Two-weapon Feint


Rules Questions

Sovereign Court

This is a really complicated weapon in terms of PF. Mainly, the confusion comes from the fact that it can be used as a 1-handed, 2-handed and offhand weapon, and it has two seemingly non-complementary weapon qualities in defensive and distracting.

Let's focus on TWF with the offhand being a dagger for simplicity.

  • If you dual-wield and fight defensively, you get an additional +1 shield bonus to AC.
  • If you feint, you get +2 to the bluff check.
  • What if you dual wield with the NsW in your main hand, dagger in your offhand, while using Two-weapon Feint to forgo the main hand attack to feint, and while also fighting defensively?

Would you gain both the feint bonus and the shield bonus while taking your offhand attack at a -6?

*If you are curious, for my purposes, the offhand attack will be a touch spell against flat-footed(hopefully) touch AC. That's why I would consider taking a -6 to hit.

Sovereign Court

I'd appreciate some feedback as this is a very flavorful, and possibly useful, weapon.

My main concern is if you TWF and forgo the mainhand to feint, does that still count as fighting with that weapon? You are engaging in combat, and you are still taking TWF penalties for wielding that weapon. But you aren't making an attack with that weapon. I see room for interpretation both ways.

Grand Lodge

I would probably apply your attack penalty to the feint check as well, but otherwise it looks right. Would have to go back and double check.

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