Twelfth Doctor to be Revealed Sunday Aug 4th.


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Announcement to be simulcast on BBC One and BBC America. Details here


Im blocked at work. Is it going to be during a show? 2pm eastern time? Cant wait!

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:Sunday, August 4, 2 pm ET LIVE on BBC AMERICA and BBC One in the U.K. Set up your DVR.


We will know in just a few hours. I will know when I get home from work.


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The new Doctor has been revealed. Anybody want to know?

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Spoiler:
Peter Capaldi

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ericthecleric wrote:

The new Doctor has been revealed. Anybody want to know?

I now know Spoiler is Who - I just need to figure out who Spoiler is. Not really familiar with the actor.

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brock, no the other one... wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:

The new Doctor has been revealed. Anybody want to know?

I now know Spoiler is Who - I just need to figure out who Spoiler is. Not really familiar with the actor.

He played Malcolm Tucker on "The Thick of It" and the film "In the Loop," was on "Torchwood" as well as the Tenth Doctor episode "The Fires of Pompeii", and won an Oscar for his short film "Franz Kafka's 'It's a Wonderful Life'" in 1995.


I always knew Vin Diesel would play the Doctor someday. He can't keep doing Fast and Furious sequels forever.

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Spoilered for excessive expletiveness rather than actual spoilage...

Spoiler:
"Oh b~*$@#%s, it's a f&*&ing bastard Dalek. Oi, pepperpot, if you wave that f@@~ing plunger near me again I'll shove it so far up you you'll be exterminating out of your f!@@ing eyestalk!"


LOL..

And another Scottish Doctor..lets hope this one keeps his accent.


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After that they need a Welsh actor... what about the one from Notting Hill? ;-)

Btw, the new Doctor was also the uncle in The Crow Road, 20 or so years ago.


The only role I'm familiar with is Torchwood.

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I only discovered The Thick Of It recently, and he is a swearing GENIUS in it! He raises swearing to an art form! The beauty of his rants have you laughing so much that you have to hit pause so you don't miss too much of the show.

I can't praise the show highly enough. Find it, watch it!

Of course, if you're one of those people who has the cute phrase 'F-bomb' in your vocabulary, then you'd better give it a miss.


I'm glad they went with an older doctor. Ill be curious on who he styles himself after. I would love it if he is more like the 3rd of 4th dr. Based on the interview he seems to be a big fan of the show

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I couldn't be happier with the choice (well, if they'd gone with John Hurt, maybe, but that ship has sailed).

I'm sorry to say Matt Smith got me to stop watching DW, but now I'm excited about next year's season.


Well, I admit I got it wrong. Here I was expecting an English actor I'd never heard of... and it turns out to be a Scottish actor I'd never heard of.

TOTALLY unexpected.


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brock, no the other one... wrote:
ericthecleric wrote:

The new Doctor has been revealed. Anybody want to know?

I now know Spoiler is Who - I just need to figure out who Spoiler is. Not really familiar with the actor.
He played Malcolm Tucker on "The Thick of It" and the film "In the Loop," was on "Torchwood" as well as the Tenth Doctor episode "The Fires of Pompeii", and won an Oscar for his short film "Franz Kafka's 'It's a Wonderful Life'" in 1995.

No mention of Local Hero (which also starred Denis Lawson [Wedge Antilles] and Burt Lancaster) and featured a phone box quite prominently?


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Also worth mentioning might be his turn as Valmont's valet in Dangerous Liaisons, and (possibly more noteworthy to Whovians) his part as the beleaguered civil servant John Frobisher in the Torchwood serial Children of Earth.

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Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
Of course, if you're one of those people who has the cute phrase 'F-bomb' in your vocabulary, then you'd better give it a miss.

I do hope that doesn't cross too much over into his new role then. One of my favorite things about DW is that it typically doesn't rely too much on that kind of humor.


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I'm surprised more people aren't picking up on the fact he was the Angel Islington in Neil Gaiman's NEVERWHERE (the original TV mini-series; the novel is based on the TV show).

His last role was as a World Health Organisation doctor in WORLD WAR Z. In fact, he is even listed in the credits as 'WHO DOCTOR' :-D


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Orthos wrote:
Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
Of course, if you're one of those people who has the cute phrase 'F-bomb' in your vocabulary, then you'd better give it a miss.
I do hope that doesn't cross too much over into his new role then. One of my favorite things about DW is that it typically doesn't rely too much on that kind of humor.

Doctor Who is still, as far as I understand, primarily but not exclusively aimed at kids, so I doubt there'll be much of Malcolm Tucker in his portrayal of the Doctor. Especially considering he's a very good actor, and the writing won't be done my Armando Ianucci.

Although, during my days as a teaching-temp I occasionally wished I could get away with showing the 9+ year olds a reel of Malcolm Tucker's best lines to show them how swearing is done properly, as opposed to the lazy and one-sided use of just "f*!!" and its other-languages equivalents they'd usually stick to.


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Werthead wrote:

I'm surprised more people aren't picking up on the fact he was the Angel Islington in Neil Gaiman's NEVERWHERE (the original TV mini-series; the novel is based on the TV show).

His last role was as a World Health Organisation doctor in WORLD WAR Z. In fact, he is even listed in the credits as 'WHO DOCTOR' :-D

I don't know how widely that made it out of the UK. I can't recall it ever being shown in Sweden, and I'm in the perfect age range to have caught it if it had.

Didn't stop the novel from being my introduction to Neil Gaiman's oeuvre, though.

And while we're doing past Peter Capaldi roles, if someone knows of an online video of his scenes with Anna Chancellor in The Hour*, please link it!

*Sort of like State of Play set in the 1950s, but got a lukewarm reaction due to too many people expecting Mad Men in a London newsroom.

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Kajehase wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
Of course, if you're one of those people who has the cute phrase 'F-bomb' in your vocabulary, then you'd better give it a miss.
I do hope that doesn't cross too much over into his new role then. One of my favorite things about DW is that it typically doesn't rely too much on that kind of humor.

Doctor Who is still, as far as I understand, primarily but not exclusively aimed at kids, so I doubt there'll be much of Malcolm Tucker in his portrayal of the Doctor. Especially considering he's a very good actor, and the writing won't be done my Armando Ianucci.

One of the few comments that he made on the announcement show was to the effect that he was aware that kind of language wouldn't go over well in Dr Who. So I think that the production staff are well-enough aware.

I'm betting a mixture of 1 and 4 in character.


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And this is what the Guardian's Stuart Heritage imagines it'd look like of Capaldi did play the Doctor like Malcolm Tucker.

Yes, there is swearing.

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A friend and I were discussing that it would be interesting to see a loop tied up and have it end up being that 10 saved 12 from death on Pompeii after he used a Chameleon Arch and happened to be completely human at the time.


I was pulling for Idris Elba. He just owns whatever frame he's in.


Idris Elba is one of three actors that i would love to see as the Doctor, he would be brilliant.


Moffat confirms that the 12-regeneration limit is in the new show. Sort of.

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I think a great spin would be to start all over again. Get actors to play the first doctor on up and revamp the old story lines. That way you don't have to break the rules with some techno babble timey wimey stuff. Not that Dr.Who is afraid of a deus ex machina.

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Werthead wrote:
Moffat confirms that the 12-regeneration limit is in the new show. Sort of.

Moffat is one of those people who can mislead while telling the whole truth.

He took lessons from Caine of Amber.

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Pan wrote:
I think a great spin would be to start all over again. Get actors to play the first doctor on up and revamp the old story lines. That way you don't have to break the rules with some techno babble timey wimey stuff. Not that Dr.Who is afraid of a deus ex machina.

Doctor who is a show about an eternal time traveler who has an endless history and an endless future, and yet he is always capable of getting excited about the present.

Hitting the "reset" button and making all the glorious history disappear would be the absolute worse thing they could possibly do. The Doctor must exist forever, and a huge part of his charm comes from how huge his implied past is. I don't want a new first Doctor - I want the Doctor's history to continue to accumulate, forever enlarging his mythical stature.

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Werthead wrote:
Moffat confirms that the 12-regeneration limit is in the new show. Sort of.

Rule One: Moffat is a lying SOB. :)

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LazarX wrote:
Werthead wrote:
Moffat confirms that the 12-regeneration limit is in the new show. Sort of.
Rule One: Moffat is a lying SOB. :)

Not necessarily lying, its just that the question wasn't specific enough.

"Do you acknowledge the convention that The Doctor can only regenerate 12 times?"

You can acknowledge that convention but not adhere to it by simply adding a line of dialogue that says "Back before Gallifrey burned, the High Council limited the number of times a Timelord could regenerate. But the Council is long gone now" or something similar.

If the question had been "Will the Doctor be limited to 12 regenerations / 13 incarnations?" I think Moffat would have avoided the question, answered it more cryptically ("Who knows?") or flat out stated "No".

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I think all it means is Moffat acknowledges the past continuity established.

People are also only counting Capaldi as the "last" Doctor, if you argue that the John Hurt Doctor was a normal incarnation (which means that technically, Eccleston was the 10th, Tennant 11th, and Smith 12th, which goes against even what has been said in the in-show dialogue). Of course who knows what is really intended, but right now my best guess is he is kind of like the Valeyard, who was described as "between" incarnations of the Doctor (between the 12th and final incarnation, in fact, according to dialogue in Trial of a Time Lord), and doesn't exactly "count" against the regenerations the Doctor has left.

And remember, the first story Moffat ever wrote for Doctor Who was "The Curse of Fatal Death." He's found a way for the Doctor to regenerate beyond his allotted times before and he'll find it again... even if it ends up with Joanna Lumley becoming the Doctor, which really I can't think of any objections to whatsoever. ;)


Why is there a recurrent interest in the Doctor regenerating female?

Before we go with such a benchmark change, howzabout a French-accented Doctor, or a Doctor with non-European features/complexion?

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Why is there a recurrent interest in the Doctor regenerating female?

Unless I missed it, no one's really mentioned that in this thread. So I must assume you are directing your comment at me.

Joanna Lumley played the Doctor in the "Curse of Fatal Death." That's not a "recurrent interest"; that's "this thing that already happened in this parody." If you haven't seen it yet, Google it and give it a watch. Ms. Lumley and all the other actors who play the Doctor in it are brilliant.

My general opinion on "who should be cast as the Doctor" boils down to, "whoever gives the best audition" and leave it at that.

As to "why do some Doctor who fans want a female Doctor?" For some, they would like a woman in an iconic role. For others, they just want something different. For others still, they want to explore how far regeneration potentially goes. Agree or disagree, they are as entitled to their opinion as you are.


Actually, my comment was prompted by how often this subject turns up on BleedingCool.com. You just happened to post the most recent (similar) comment that I've run across.

As to my preference? An older man w/o a Welsh or Scottish accent (I need subtitles to understand these much of the time) who perhaps hearkens back more to the 1st and 3rd Doctors.

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Also, I was really disappointed by the season finale. My theory was that Amon was Azula's kid or maybe Ozai managed to have another child secretly. It was a long shot but it would have been cooler I think.

He might be a Watcher, an inbetween projection like the original Watcher which helped the 4th Doctor regenerate by merging with him and the Valeyard who has rebelled against his status and sought to become an independent entity. Than there's Kan'po who created his own Watcher to use as a remote agent.

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DeathQuaker wrote:
Also, I was really disappointed by the season finale. My theory was that Amon was Azula's kid or maybe Ozai managed to have another child secretly. It was a long shot but it would have been cooler I think.
He might be a Watcher, an inbetween projection like the original Watcher which helped the 4th Doctor regenerate by merging with him and the Valeyard who has rebelled against his status and sought to become an independent entity. Than there's Kan'po who created his own Watcher to use as a remote agent.

You seem to be quoting something about Legend of Korra, from me, and that's a show I don't watch, and I didn't say that, and this is the Doctor Who thread, and you're talking about the Watcher, and I'm confused.

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If you watched the old classic series episode "Logopolis" there was a mysterious figure that aided the Doctor that Adric called "The Watcher" and identified him as a future "in-between incarnation" projection from The Doctor. Watcher is the generic term for such a projection. The Time Lord Kan'po was the most psychic of the bunch. He actually had the ability to project such a Watcher as a remote agent all the way from Galifrey to Earth. It was such a Watcher that aided the Third Doctor's regeneration.

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LazarX wrote:
If you watched the old classic series episode "Logopolis" there was a mysterious figure that aided the Doctor that Adric called "The Watcher" and identified him as a future "in-between incarnation" projection from The Doctor. Watcher is the generic term for such a projection. The Time Lord Kan'po was the most psychic of the bunch. He actually had the ability to project such a Watcher as a remote agent all the way from Galifrey to Earth. It was such a Watcher that aided the Third Doctor's regeneration.

Lazar: read your post:

First: You are quoting something I didn't say but attributing it to me.
Second: The quote you are quoting from "me" is about the Legend of Korra.

I know who the Watcher is and have for over 25 years, but I have absolutely no idea what context you are using since the quote from "me" has nothing to do with Doctor Who.

I assume you had a copy paste snafu but as you seem to be overlooking it, I still don't know what it is you are actually responding to.


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People are also only counting Capaldi as the "last" Doctor, if you argue that the John Hurt Doctor was a normal incarnation (which means that technically, Eccleston was the 10th, Tennant 11th, and Smith 12th, which goes against even what has been said in the in-show dialogue).

As far as I can gather, the situation would be that John Hurt is the "Ninth incarnation of the Time Lord most often known as the Doctor," but he is not the 'Ninth Doctor' because that name was stripped from him because he did things that clash with the values of the Doctor.

Fascinatingly:

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A recent couple of stories in DWM and the comics have suggested that that Doctor 'lost' his name during the Time War when he rejected it due to the things he was forced to do by the war. Instead he became known as 'The Renegade' and was still under this name when he ended the Time War.

Basically, it's semantics so that people don't have to completely revamp the various DOCTOR WHO Wikipedia pages :)

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I'm slightly disappointed that the "each regeneration is younger" thing has stopped. I realize it had to at some point, I'm hoping they make a point of it in the story though.

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Nevynxxx wrote:
I'm slightly disappointed that the "each regeneration is younger" thing has stopped. I realize it had to at some point, I'm hoping they make a point of it in the story though.

Jon Pertwee was slightly older than Patrick Troughton.

Colin Baker was several years older than Peter Davison.

We don't really know at what point in their relative lifespans the Eight Doctor regenerated into the Ninth.

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Oh yeah, I know it doesn't entirely work. The other actors have all been close enough though that with the trend in the most recent ones it can follow through. If you line them up, it's a general trend with a few not quite fitting the pattern. As though he grew old once, regenerated, and each time strives to come back to his perfect age, not quite always getting there, or sure what that age is.

I hope that he'll regenerate and Clara will say something like "Oh, you're older" disappointedly, and he'll explain.

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Not really. It goes old, younger, older, younger, much younger, older than much younger, a little older still, younger, about the same age as previous, younger, still younger, now older again. There's no real trend. The youngest Doctors have been Five and Eleven, far apart from each other.

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Actor ; Birth date ; Debut date ; Age
William Hartnell ; 8 January 1908 ; 23 November 1963 ; 55
Patrick Troughton ; 25 March 1920 ; 29 October 1966 ; 46
Jon Pertwee ; 7 July 1919 ; 3 January 1970; 50
Tom Baker ; 20 January 1934 ; 8 June 1974 ; 40
Peter Davison ; 13 April 1951 ; 21 March 1981 ; 29
Colin Baker ; 8 June 1943 ; 16 March 1984 ; 40
Sylvester McCoy ; 20 August 1943 ; 7 September 1987 ; 44
Paul McGann ; 14 November 1959 ; 27 May 1996 ; 36
Chris Eccleston ; 16 February 1964 ; 26 March 2005 ; 41
David Tennant ; 18 April 1971 ; 18 June 2005 ; 34
Matt Smith ; 28 October 1982 ; 1 January 2010 ; 27

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Technically, if we want to talk about the character, not the actor, the youngest was the First Doctor, as an infant.


That picture of Peter Capaldi with the Tardis reminds me of Hugh Laurie. Now if the new guy walked with a cane and popped pills.... :p

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