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For those not familiar with the feat
Spell Perfection:
Benefit: Pick one spell which you have the ability to
cast. Whenever you cast that spell you may apply any one
metamagic feat you have to that spell without affecting its
level or casting time, as long as the total modified level
of the spell does not use a spell slot above 9th level. In
addition, if you have other feats which allow you to apply
a set numerical bonus to any aspect of this spell (such as
Spell Focus, Spell Penetration, Weapon Focus [ray], and so
on), double the bonus granted by that feat when applied to
this spell.
First off, This is for my wizard15 evocation specialist:
Can I memorize a Piercing Lightning bolt in a 4th level slot (piercing =Affected spell treats creatures with SR as having
an SR of 5 lower).
Then cast it on my turn, applying the spell perfection feat to it.
Does this application of Spell perfection make the sr 10 lower since the metamagic feat piercing was already applied in the 4ht level slot?
I would say yes. Using Perfection with Intensify is a standard trick to double the bonus to the damage cap. This seems very similar.
Sadly spell perfection can't be taken more than once. But yes, it is an insanely good feat.
I don't believe this is true. There's a general rule that if you take a feat more than once, it's benefits don't stack. I don't think there is a general rule that you can't take the same feat more than once (although with most feats there's no reason to). I certainly haven't been able to find it in a quick look.
Taking Spell Perfection twice, to apply to two different spells, seems completely RAW to me.
Well, it's numerical, and it's a bonus, and it's applied to the spell.....
More broadly, it's fun, which is the point of the game in the first place.
Reducing a target's score is not applying a set numerical bonus to an aspect of the spell. Spell Perfection does not double the effect of piercing spell. It does, however reduce the metamagic spell level modifier.
Because those feats describe specifically how taking the feats multiple times works.
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On the piercing aspect I can see how that wording might preclude it from receiving the benefits of SPell Perfection.
If I could add another chink in to this discussion, lets look at Specialized spell in conjunction with spell perfection.
Specialized spell grants you a +2 caster level to all damage dice on a specific spell. So if we choose lightning bolt, and also lightning bolt for out spell perfection, then at 15th lvl wizard, I could blast off a maximized 19d6 bolt (114pts of damage), or if I only had empowered, it would be a 28d6 bolt.
Specialized would be doubled so +4 caster level to lightning bolt, +10 dice on damage (if you have the caster level to get them from Intensify).
Really kind cool.
And if you did this for Magic Missile, then @ 15th lvl wizard, I could blow off a maximized toppling intensified magic missile that would shoot out 10 missiles doing a max of 50pts for a 3rd level slot, 2nd if you take the trait to help lower meta magic on a single spell.
That is nice as well.
Am I still interpreting Spell Perfection correctly?
Spell Perfection would only apply to set numerical bonuses, which Piercing Spell does not provide. As per the actual text of the Piercing Spell feat:
Benefit: When you cast a piercing spell against a target with spell resistance, it treats the spell resistance of the target as 5 lower than its actual SR.
The difference between this and Spell Penetration is that the latter adds an actual numerical bonus to the d20 roll to overcome SR, Piercing does not. Same thing with Intensify Spell:
Benefit: An intensified spell increases the maximum number of damage dice by 5 levels. You must actually have sufficient caster levels to surpass the maximum in order to benefit from this feat. No other variables of the spell are affected, and spells that inflict damage that is not modified by caster level are not affected by this feat.
Again, no set numerical bonus, which is what Spell Perfection actually doubles. It's a fine line, but one that's not impossible to make out.