What age do you expect to live to?


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Do you expect to make it to a hundred? What is your expected lifespan? Long enough to see humans land on the Moon?

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Well I don't eat the healthiest but do work out a lot. I also tend to binge drink 2-3 days a week. I'm betting making it past 80 is 50/50. Probably little to no chance of 100. Doubt I'll keep up the drinking but i'll definitively keep up the exercise.


My physical excercise is okay, but my diet is horrid. I weigh over a hundred pounds more than I should. My drinking, while frequent, isn't too bad from an alcoholism standpoint, but I love craft beers quite a lot, and beer is fattening, what with all the carbs. My dad insists that alcohol itself has a high calorie count, so the vodka I also love may or may not be better than the beer. Also, my family has a history of diabetes, and I use a lot of sugar. Also a history of cancer. If I lose the weight (big if), I want a sex change operation, which will cause stress on my body. All things taken into account, I doubt I'll reach 70, much less 100.


Odds are cancer would get me before anything else, so it largely depends on our ability to treat cancers 40 years from now. If we have figured that particular puzzle out, sky's the limit.

All I really need to do is make it to the point where the rate at which my life expectancy increases reaches 1 day per day.


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I've already past the betting pool on that one.


We tend not to get too old, due to heart problems. Early. Yeah, fun prospect. So, I figure if I do well, maybe 60-65? Hey, don't knock it. Dementia and cancer tend not to be problems in my family.


Well, my grandma is 91. My grandfather was 87 when he passed away. My mother is 65 and doing OK for someone with multiple sclerosis and arthritis. My dad looks terrible, but he's dedicated his life to ridding the world of alcohol, one bottle at a time, so it's not shocking he looks like he's been sandblasted. I don't do drugs or drink, so...

Counter that with weight issues and limited mobility making controlling that weight problematic, and my own battery of medical fun, and I reckon I can probably hit seventies. Maybe more if I can finally loose the gullet. Even with a knee and back made of molten cheese and carrying enough extra weight for another person I still get winded less often than younger, fitter people I know.

Shadow Lodge

Overweight by about thirty to forty pounds, slowly shaving bits of that though. My lack of activity and aversion to physical labor are probably the main restraining factors; my diet's not as bad as it used to be, especially since my doctor recently banned me from caffeine (which for about ten to fifteen years has been my drug of choice) due to insomnia problems, and I've been taking pains within the past few months to start watching what I eat more closely.

That said, my grandparents are all four well into their higher years - my maternal grandfather turned 78 recently and my paternal grandparents are in their early 80s. I figure if I can make it to 75 I'll be doing good; after that all bets are off.

Sovereign Court

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As a child I figured I'd die in a nuclear holocaust before I was 30 years old. Now I'm 31 and have no idea what to do about the future.

Silver Crusade

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None of my grandparents reached 80. Two died in their early 60s of heart disease.

I like to think that I take somewhat better care of myself, so might make it to the 75-80 range.

Unless I get me some of those nanites to keep my heart going and my arteries flowing smoothly... (Can you get nanites on Amazon.com?)


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Save for one of my great-grandparents (who died of an aggresive form of cancer when he was 55), everyone in the family seems to have lived past 90 years old (except one of my grandmothers, who's still 87. The other one, who's 91, still goes to the gym twice a week). There was a cousin of my great-grandmother who managed to reach 112 years.

So if we consider that + my love of KFC, I expect to reach... 40 or 50 years. I'm turning 29 in December, and assuming an average lenth of 1.5 years per campaign, that means I still have time for approximately 10.6 more roleplaying adventures!

I'll try to put that 0.6 one in a cliffhanger, so when I die the party will be forever haunted by the question "Really, what's the gorilla doing with that lawnmower?"

Silver Crusade

Shooting for 112. Exercise is decent, diet as well. Folks have lived long, though I might have Alzheimers. I got my mom's side's hair growing tendencies though, so I'm hoping I get non-Alzheimers from that too.


I dont really plan on living past 60 and anything after that is extra credit. No real reason I'm in pretty good health I guess im just a pessimist (sp?)

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Based on family lifespans i am expecting around 70


Grandparents on the mother's side reached 88 (grandma) and 89 (grandpa, heart attack). Grandparents on the father's side reached 67 (grandma, but she did not wake up from narcosis after a gallstone removal operation) and 76 (grandpa, from age-aggravated illness).

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Heart defect suggested I was gonna croak in my late 30's or early 40's, and yet the big Five-Oh is on the horizon, and approaching steadily.

Family members without the heart defect tend to live into their late 90's (many, amazingly, keeping most of both hair and teeth!), so who knows. My genetic soup is both sweet and sour.

Each day is another chance for me to flip off that original prognosis.


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By my reckoning, I've been playing overtime for quite some years already.

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Morgen wrote:
As a child I figured I'd die in a nuclear holocaust before I was 30 years old. Now I'm 31 and have no idea what to do about the future.

I could see that answer from someone a decade or so older than you, but didn't the Berlin Wall fall when you were 7?


Morgen doesn't really wanna live forever...

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Morgen wrote:
As a child I figured I'd die in a nuclear holocaust before I was 30 years old. Now I'm 31 and have no idea what to do about the future.

Move where the nuclear Holocaust might still happen?

Liberty's Edge

My family lives past their 100s. I expect to make it to my 90s in the very least.

I will be in my 90s in the 2060s...either my consciousness will be uploaded to something, or I will go through rejuve therapy. I'm actually serious.

I do not plan to die. Ever.


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I intend to live as long as I can.


Welp, just found out my brother is probably going to die from the cancer infecting most of his lower body, and I'm at a high risk of getting it myself, so I may need to revise that estimate.

Alos, f#$%.

Grand Lodge

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yellowdingo wrote:
Do you expect to make it to a hundred? What is your expected lifespan? Long enough to see humans land on the Moon?

I watched the Moon Landing in '69 with a few other folks.

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Andrew Turner wrote:

My family lives past their 100s. I expect to make it to my 90s in the very least.

I will be in my 90s in the 2060s...either my consciousness will be uploaded to something, or I will go through rejuve therapy. I'm actually serious.

I do not plan to die. Ever.

That consciousness won't be "You", it'd be some poorly digitized copy. You at best with a severe multiple lobotomy. I've always found it ironic that after science essentially did away with the midieval notion of dualism, the Transhumanists seem hell bent on bringing it back. Human consciousness is essentially an analog function. It could not survive being reduced down to a digital state any more than you can freeze an ocean wave.

Everything dies... even the universe itself. It's the one equalizer.

Sovereign Court

Well, the contract says 500 with an option to renew ... ;)

Actually, my grandmothers both lived well into their 90s. My grandfathers both died younger (one in an accident when he was in his late 50s, the other in his sleep in his early 70s). Both of my folks are currently in their 70s and going strong. So I'm guessing I've still got a ways to go ... though I'll most likely take the renewal at 500. ;)


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I dare all the pessimists here to go ahead and kill themselves, since apparently there's no point in living aside from dying.


What I find most terrifying about the "uploaded consciousness" idea is that there will still be people censoring stuff on the networks... Only at that point, they will be censoring your THOUGHTS. Good thing it will actually only ever be a crude copy of me. I have to say I go with the old adage: Immortality, a fate worse than death. It would be horrible to live forever in any way, shape, or form. Heaven is not for me. When finally my number is up, I hope I will be able to close my eyes and meet oblivion.


I'll be able to accept death only after I've left a proper mark on the world somehow.

Then again, I might have already achieved that to some extent. I just fear the reaper for now.

But yeah, I still want to publish a memorable novel or achieve something similar before biting the dust.

Grand Lodge

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Sissyl wrote:
What I find most terrifying about the "uploaded consciousness" idea is that there will still be people censoring stuff on the networks... Only at that point, they will be censoring your THOUGHTS. Good thing it will actually only ever be a crude copy of me. I have to say I go with the old adage: Immortality, a fate worse than death. It would be horrible to live forever in any way, shape, or form. Heaven is not for me. When finally my number is up, I hope I will be able to close my eyes and meet oblivion.

I'm with Bill Black when it comes to immortality. One of the few redeeming aspects of life is that no matter how rich and powerful the jackasses become, we WILL get rid of them eventually. If there is any form of technology I'd actively work to suppress, it would be immortality.


Kirth Gersen wrote:
By my reckoning, I've been playing overtime for quite some years already.

+1

I'm surprised that I survived my cancer. I thought that I would be dead many years ago.

I'm sure I can't die fast enough for some folks here though.

Maybe I'm just here to piss people off and fight for human rights.

*shrug*


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Apparently I watched the moon landing already (according to my parents - I was a little young at the time). So I guess I'll just live forever, or die trying.

Reggie.


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Icyshadow wrote:
I dare all the pessimists here to go ahead and kill themselves, since apparently there's no point in living aside from dying.

Dying is inevitable; living well is up to each of us.

Most of living well is about human relationships (IMHO).


And making sure human rights make good relationships possible. By pissing people off.


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Andrew Turner wrote:

My family lives past their 100s. I expect to make it to my 90s in the very least.

I will be in my 90s in the 2060s...either my consciousness will be uploaded to something, or I will go through rejuve therapy. I'm actually serious.

I do not plan to die. Ever.

Regarding Immortality

Sovereign Court

Sebastian wrote:
I could see that answer from someone a decade or so older than you, but didn't the Berlin Wall fall when you were 7?

Well what did you think about when you were 7?


Stone

Sovereign Court

Well betting odds
Grandfather on mothers side was 63 4 Heart attacks
Grandmother 1 day short of 95 - Old Age
Grandfather of my father 72 Cancer and 5 heart attacks got him
grandmother 89 - Old age and diabetes
Moms eldest brother 63 brain tumor
Moms next eldest Heart exploded (Yes really)
Moms sister 63 - everything failed
Moms youngest brother 63 Heart Attack
Dads family mostly in their 60's heart attack,lupis, heart attack, heart atack

So I figure IF i'm lucky I'll make my 70's if not 63 seems to be the magic number

I do ride my bike when possible and was getting 18 miles 3X a day (Covering other workers shifts so can't until Aug) Plus I hike when possible, drink only on occasion, eat lots of fruit not enough veggies, avoid coffee and drink 1 pop maybe once a month with a pizza and OD on dark chocolate

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Morgen wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
I could see that answer from someone a decade or so older than you, but didn't the Berlin Wall fall when you were 7?
Well what did you think about when you were 7?

Ice cream and comic books, mostly.

The cold war may have been going on when I was that age, and the TV and movies full of alarmist 'you're all gonna die!' propaganda like 'The Day After' and 'Red Dawn,' but I didn't believe it then and I still don't believe it now. Bunch of chicken little crap designed to get people to vote away their rights and give big government more power. Oh noes! Take our rights and freedoms, big government, loot our pensions and the social security benefits we bought and paid for all our lives, and save us from the commies and the immigrants and the gays and those horrible fascists who want us to have clean drinking water and energy independence and less than 5% ammonium hydrate and fecal matter in our meat!

As for downloading a copy of my brain into a machine and calling that immortality, if I want something with some, but not all, of my traits that isn't even remotely *me* running around long after I die, I'll do it the old fashioned way, by having lots and lots of unprotected sex.

The Exchange

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The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

Dark Archive

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Crimson Jester wrote:
The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

"Yet with strange aeons, even death may die."


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Death is not the enemy. Suffering is, and death is so often a blessing.

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LazarX wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

My family lives past their 100s. I expect to make it to my 90s in the very least.

I will be in my 90s in the 2060s...either my consciousness will be uploaded to something, or I will go through rejuve therapy. I'm actually serious.

I do not plan to die. Ever.

That consciousness won't be "You", it'd be some poorly digitized copy. You at best with a severe multiple lobotomy. I've always found it ironic that after science essentially did away with the midieval notion of dualism, the Transhumanists seem hell bent on bringing it back. Human consciousness is essentially an analog function. It could not survive being reduced down to a digital state any more than you can freeze an ocean wave.

Everything dies... even the universe itself. It's the one equalizer.

Everything...except me. Also, plenty of BCI researchers would disagree with your analog brain. If you agree that 'you' can be quantitized (I follow the school of physicalism, so I agree that this is so), then 'you' can be moved between systems.

Silver Crusade

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My 7th grade PE teacher told me I would be dead at 30 because I quit the "Beep Test" at half a beep to read.

I told her that "I'm here for a good time not a long time."

I'm 28 now.

It's still true.

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65. No man in my family lives past 65 for one reason or another.

Shadow Lodge

DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

My 7th grade PE teacher told me I would be dead at 30 because I quit the "Beep Test" at half a beep to read.

I told her that "I'm here for a good time not a long time."

I'm 28 now.

It's still true.

Reminds me of my Jr. High PE teacher as well. Who straight up told everyone who wasn't in Athletics "you are here because you're too stupid, too weak, or too scaredy-cat to be in Athletics" on the first day (since you couldn't be in it if your grades were poor in other courses, and the remainder were those of us who had chosen not to be in it).

My least favorite teacher ever. I don't have a single good memory about him, and plenty of bad ones.

Shadow Lodge

And just a tad too late to edit that post so have to edit this one instead. Dudemeister, what exactly is the "Beep Test"? Not familiar with that terminology.

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Andrew Turner wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Andrew Turner wrote:

My family lives past their 100s. I expect to make it to my 90s in the very least.

I will be in my 90s in the 2060s...either my consciousness will be uploaded to something, or I will go through rejuve therapy. I'm actually serious.

I do not plan to die. Ever.

That consciousness won't be "You", it'd be some poorly digitized copy. You at best with a severe multiple lobotomy. I've always found it ironic that after science essentially did away with the midieval notion of dualism, the Transhumanists seem hell bent on bringing it back. Human consciousness is essentially an analog function. It could not survive being reduced down to a digital state any more than you can freeze an ocean wave.

Everything dies... even the universe itself. It's the one equalizer.

Everything...except me. Also, plenty of BCI researchers would disagree with your analog brain. If you agree that 'you' can be quantitized (I follow the school of physicalism, so I agree that this is so), then 'you' can be moved between systems.

Whether or not this is im/possible aside, I think you're deluding yourself if you think this technology - should it become possible - will be made available to anyone without immense wealth or sociopolitical clout, or whose mind carries enough specialized or rare knowledge, information, or skill to be considered "worth saving" without either of the first two prerequisites.

I'm fairly confident almost no one on this forum qualifies.


No. I will of course just allow useful subjects, pretty sycophants and people I like to live forever on a hard drive when I am World Empress.

Maybe not the pretty sycophants, come to think of it. Hard drives aren't that pretty.

And enemies can be quite amusing to have living on a VIC-20.

Silver Crusade

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I think living in virual memory (if such a thing were possible, and I suspect it is not) strikes me that it would be akin to living in a sensory deprivation chamber. I think anyone in that situation would be driven mad.


I wouldn't consider digital copy of myself as myself self. It would be separate individual than me that would happen to share my memories and experiences.

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