I have a dude, what is the correct pronunciation of the Sczarni?

[Haco]

Hi all in many events and other game session we have no clear idea of what is teh correct pronunciation of SCZARNI name.

And i want to know from where is that name?

Thanks to all!!

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Ss-zar-nee. I think it's in the Rise of the Runelords players guide, I'm sure someone's already in the process of posting the excerpt from wherever it's from.

[Rogue Eidolon]

Here's where James Jacobs says it's zkar-nee.

[thistledown]

Like irish are full of Blarney, but with a Scar in front.

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Rogue Eidolon's right, though I'm still pretty sure it's also in the old RotRL guide or something. I might just be losing my mind even more, though...

[Rogue Eidolon]

I don't think so, but your pronunciation is the one that makes more sense linguistically. There are people in high places who like it enough better to use it over zkar-nee anyway. Similarly, the iconic cleric, actually pronounced kie-ra (first syllable rhymes with die) is often pronounced kee-ra (first syllable rhymes with key).

[El Baron de los Banditos]

Found it. It's in the old RotRL's players guide. It is absent from the Anniversary edition guide, though.

Page 9 wrote:

These rogues belong to a loosely-organized association of bandits, smugglers, and thieves called the Sczarni (SCAR-nee).

[Rogue Eidolon]

Oh, yeah, I knew it was in the PG. I just thought you meant that it had the common ss-zar-nee pronunciation back then. Ah internet miscommunication!

[Chris Mortika]

Rogue Eidolon wrote:

... the iconic cleric, actually pronounced kie-ra (first syllable rhymes with die) is often pronounced kee-ra (first syllable rhymes with key).

Got a source for "kiy-rah"?

[Rogue Eidolon]

That one probably isn't in any book, but it's how they say it at Paizo. It came up when we were talking about the Sczarni pronunciation at the banquet.

[Chris Mortika]

I suspect there's some bias from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

[Rogue Eidolon]

Wait, is "kiy-rah" the same as "kee-rah", the homophone for the DS9 character? In that case, I answered you the opposite of how I meant to answer. Many people say "kee-rah", while "kie-rah" is how they say it at Paizo.

[Mike Mistele]

The correct pronunciation is, in fact, "throatwarbler mangrove". ;)

[thistledown]

Out here we call her Kir-ra or Kir-ah.

[Kyras Mystborn]

I don't care what you call me. Just have money when I get there, or pronunciation won't be your biggest concern.

[Bubba Anbabms]

Shoot, Bubba ain't shure how to say "Anbabms". But Bubba's always gonna help get stuff done fer the boss.

[thaX]

"Zarni" or you can do it as the Wrestler of the same name. "Cah - Zarny"

Little late to the party but hey, putting in my 2 coppers.

[Pontificor the Great]

Bubba Anbabms wrote:

Shoot, Bubba ain't shure how to say "Anbabms". But Bubba's always gonna help get stuff done fer the boss.

Yeah! Me and Hubba Bubba are great Zarniests. We zarny-it-up all the time. Besides what's the point of a name? Some scaredy-spear once said a Gnome calleded by any other name would still be the awesomerest!

[Bubba Anbabms]

Pontificor the Great wrote:

Bubba Anbabms wrote:

Shoot, Bubba ain't shure how to say "Anbabms". But Bubba's always gonna help get stuff done fer the boss.

Yeah! Me and Hubba Bubba are great Zarniests. We zarny-it-up all the time. Besides what's the point of a name? Some scaredy-spear once said a Gnome calleded by any other name would still be the awesomerest!

Hubba Bubba? I been called worse, I suppose, but not by anybody still alive. Most people don't stay alive too long when Bubba gets mad.

[roll4initiative]

It should be pronounced suh-CHAR-nee. Like the Cz in Czechoslovakia.

[BigNorseWolf]

its pronounced "association of legitimate business persons"

[TheFlyingPhoton]

I've heard both "sarnee" and "zarnee" in my area.

When I looked at it, I assumed it was "sk-zarnee" because of a detailed conversation I once had with a professor on the pronunciation of his Italian last name with an "sc" in the middle of it and that the Sczarni are vaguely the Italian mob.

[Rha'ziz]

It depends on what part of Varisia and what family you hail from.

[Telessar]

I've never heard the term. Guaril always says "Fam-a-lee" strange he doesnt look elven to me.

[Shasta Lux]

Reminds me of a joke made about how surprised someone was to learn that the tzar and the czar were the same person.

It might me good to remember that there are different dialect pronunciations of Mafia, each pronouncing the first vowel sound slightly differently, like MAH fee ah vs. MEH fee ah.

Still, in a game, it might be good roleplaying to try to remember the preferred pronunciation, at least when dealing with the organization members. Not a group one wants to tick off.

[Jayson MF Kip]

Man, maybe the people around here are pronunciationally unique.

There's:

"Zar-nee"

The extra syllable version:

"Zar-a-nee"

"C is a vowel" version:

"Skuh-zar-nee"

And the logical Snoop Dogg extension there-of:

"Skizz-arr-nee"

And occasionally the "c is a silent vowel" version:

"Suss-arr-nee" or "Suss-zar-nee"

Sometimes the Z is the silent letter:

"Scar-nee"

Or combining both:

"Suh-car-nee" or "suss-sar-nee"

Depending on whether you want a soft or hard "c" sound.