[LPJ Design] Announces the 1st ALL FEMALE written Adventure Path for Kickstarter, Empire of Tears


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I would have thought Stephanie Pui-Mun Law would have been first on your list for this project. (I mean, as long as we're sticking on theme.)

-Ben.


terraleon wrote:

I would have thought Stephanie Pui-Mun Law would have been first on your list for this project. (I mean, as long as we're sticking on theme.)

-Ben.

Wow - nice work- I was going to say her stuff is reminiscent of the cover of Courts of the Shadow Fey - but she did that too. Yep, if Empire of Tears had WAR and SP-ML it would be a beautfiul thing to behold.


This reminds me of Micheal Tumey's/gamerprinter's idea for a gothic horror romance adventure that he wanted written by a female author. Don't know if it ever got made though...

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LMPjr007 wrote:
OK I am starting to think about artwork for this project so I have to wonder what people might like to see artwise. Who would be your top three artist you would like to see work on this project? And of of course Wayne Reynolds is #1 on everyone list.

I don't know who it is, but I like a lot of the art on the cover of SGG products.

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Here's somebody you may never have heard of, but that I knew in the gaming scene back in Nashville: Melissa Gay. Give her a look; it might be worth getting her to do some stuff. Melissa Gay. (Tell her Rob Knop sent you if you contact her.)


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All female artists (from art direction to the cover to incidental art and filler doodles for layout) for this project might be an interesting additional consideration. I like the idea of that actually.

Also, the respective galleries of SPML and Melissa Gay are great. No troubles finding appropriate talent on the gaming art front.


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LMPjr007 wrote:
OK I am starting to think about artwork for this project so I have to wonder what people might like to see artwise. Who would be your top three artist you would like to see work on this project? And of of course Wayne Reynolds is #1 on everyone list.

In keeping with the all-female theme of the team.

1. Anne Stokes
2. Eva Widermann
3. Julie Dillon


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That'd incidentally be three of the names in my top-5 RPG-book artists regardless of gender.

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LMPjr007 wrote:
OK I am starting to think about artwork for this project so I have to wonder what people might like to see artwise. Who would be your top three artist you would like to see work on this project? And of of course Wayne Reynolds is #1 on everyone list.

You should try to keep to the spirit of what you started by seeking out the top three female artists. :)

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Yeah, let's go with female artists, Louis. Darlene maybe?


Christina Stiles wrote:
Yeah, let's go with female artists, Louis. Darlene maybe?

I can not lie, I LOVE artwork as I am sure everyone knows. I have a specific style that I like artwise and it is normally male dominated. Also being a graphic designer, I have a specific look that I have planned for this kickstarter.

BUT...

I will tell you I have been thinking about actually letting a woman do all the graphic design on this book, EXCEPT for the cover. Nothing personal, I just LOVE doing covers so for me to turn that over "might" be an impossibility. I am thinking about turning the actual graphic design of the book over to someone else, which would be the first time I have ever done that in my complete RPG publishing career. There are graphic designers work I am fans of, (with Sarah at Paizo tops that list) but I would have to find the "right person" for me. Hey, you never know what I might do or change my mind on. Guess you will have to wait and see.

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I think having all female artists is kind of a no-brainer for this project.

Besides, as others have said, there are plenty of amazing women artists out there! I speak from first-hand experience :)


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This is awesome. Now, to win a lottery jackpot...


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I have a specific look that I have planned for this kickstarter.

Just go easy on the chainmail bikinis... ;-)


Breastplates with sculpted breasts are the worst offender. Directing blows towards the center of the chest? Bad plan.


Marc Radle wrote:
I think having all female artists is kind of a no-brainer for this project.

I am not going to lie, to actually be a "female only" means I would have to sit back an let other people take the project from beginning to end and then put my company name on it. That is something that I am NOT at all comfortable about doing. Not that I don't think they are qualified, this is more about letting people play in the NeoExodus "playground". We at LPJ Design have built in a very specific feel and look so we can stand out from every other Pathfinder campaign setting in the market. That was don't for a very specific reason. Since this adventure path will cross into NeoExodus we want the favor and feel to be there and be right, which would mean having myself, our creative director and head writer look at it and give input. It is tough to let your "baby" off into the world to see what happens.

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Besides, as others have said, there are plenty of amazing women artists out there! I speak from first-hand experience :)

I would like to find more artists who were focused on my comic book / video game influenced artwork of the traditional "standard" fantasy artwork. For example this is what I would like to see visually. Or this, or this or even this. I want the visuals to be something VERY different from what you might see in any other publishers. If people look at LPJ Design products and say, they look like X, then I have done something wrong. I will work with whoever brings the quality and style to their artwork. I don't care if the person doing the art is male or female. I just care if the artwork is cool. But for this project we will be looking for more female artist who do "cool".

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LMPjr007 wrote:
I would like to find more artists who were focused on my comic book / video game influenced artwork of the traditional "standard" fantasy artwork. For example this is what I would like to see visually. Or this, or this or even this. I want the visuals to be something VERY different from what you might see in any other publishers. If people look at LPJ Design products and say, they look like X, then I have done something wrong. I will work with whoever brings the quality and style to their artwork. I don't care if the person doing the art is male or female. I just care if the artwork is cool. But for this project we will be looking for more female artist who do "cool".

Personally I find the 1, 3, and 4th piece to cartoony looking for my taste. Though I do really like the 2nd one, i think it strikes a nice balance. Just saying.


Helic wrote:
Breastplates with sculpted breasts are the worst offender. Directing blows towards the center of the chest? Bad plan.

What if they're Madonna-style cones though?

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Thanael wrote:
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I have a specific look that I have planned for this kickstarter.
Just go easy on the chainmail bikinis... ;-)

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Dark_Mistress wrote:
LMPjr007 wrote:
I would like to find more artists who were focused on my comic book / video game influenced artwork of the traditional "standard" fantasy artwork. For example this is what I would like to see visually. Or this, or this or even this. I want the visuals to be something VERY different from what you might see in any other publishers. If people look at LPJ Design products and say, they look like X, then I have done something wrong. I will work with whoever brings the quality and style to their artwork. I don't care if the person doing the art is male or female. I just care if the artwork is cool. But for this project we will be looking for more female artist who do "cool".
Personally I find the 1, 3, and 4th piece to cartoony looking for my taste. Though I do really like the 2nd one, i think it strikes a nice balance. Just saying.

But, the Anime influenced style is all through the NeoExodus products. So it should be in this one as well. :)


Lord Fyre wrote:
But, the Anime influenced style is all through the NeoExodus products. So it should be in this one as well. :)

I think you will see a mix of our NeoExodus style artwork plus some more different styles. Comic book artist wise I am a fan of Alan Davis, Jim Lee, Bryan Hitch, Olivier Copiel, John Cassaday, Pascal Ferry and Joe Madureira. I think the "modernization" of fantasy is only logical due to the fact that so many different artists from all over the world are attempting to add their "style" on the genre. That is what I am attempting to do with this project.

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Wow, a Genzoman pic that's not extremely revealing. That's a rare find LMP.

The guy's a great artist, I love his work, but he's really bad about folks not having a lot of clothes. (In his defense, the guys get it as much as the women. He does a lot of mythology and I think I've seen maybe three guys with a shirt.)


Orthos wrote:

Wow, a Genzoman pic that's not extremely revealing. That's a rare find LMP.

The guy's a great artist, I love his work, but he's really bad about folks not having a lot of clothes. (In his defense, the guys get it as much as the women. He does a lot of mythology and I think I've seen maybe three guys with a shirt.)

You do know that most of his work in his portfolio came from jobs where art directors asked for and people paid him to draw people with revealing clothing? Artists always seem to get a bad rap for this, but often they are just following the orders of the art director/people that pay them for the work.

Shadow Lodge

No, wasn't aware of that. Learn something new every day.


Here is a idea that I want to get some feedback on this kickstarter: Should this project be exclusively kickstarter only OR should gaming stores be able to order copies for their store? Discuss!


LMPjr007 wrote:
Here is a idea that I want to get some feedback on this kickstarter: Should this project be exclusively kickstarter only OR should gaming stores be able to order copies for their store? Discuss!

Pure curiosity, what would be your reasoning for making it a Kickstarter exclusive? Usually the goal for Kickstarter is to get a project done that couldn't otherwise fund, right? By all means, make a print edition, or limited edition or hardcover collection, or whatever; exclusive, but make sure that the project is available in some form later.

What kind of message does it send if in a few years people look back and say "remember that all-female adventure path? That was awesome! Too bad it's only available on eBay..."? I think it's way better for it to be available in perpetuity, so that upcoming game designers (female or otherwise) can get a hold of it.

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I see no upside to making it kickstart only. Now offering the kickstarters special bonus stuff makes sense.


Someone recently had a kickstarter (I forget which, sorry) where one of the contribution tiers (is that the right phrase?) was specifically for FLGS. In return for their participation, they got x number of early-release copies of the product for their store.

I don't see a benefit in making it a kickstart-only product, either.


Eric "Boxhead" Hindley wrote:
Pure curiosity, what would be your reasoning for making it a Kickstarter exclusive? Usually the goal for Kickstarter is to get a project done that couldn't otherwise fund, right? By all means, make a print edition, or limited edition or hardcover collection, or whatever; exclusive, but make sure that the project is available in some form later.

One of the issue that retailers have with kickstarter is that many feel that we are "taking the cream off the top, meaning people who might be interested in the product would support the kickstarter and not buy it in the retailer location. Another issue was that retailers wanted to get the product first before the supporters so they could sell direct to their customers. While kickstarter is great for the direct to customer base it does directly affect the retailer in the typical game product distribution chain.


I'd prefer to be able to buy it later. Kickstarters always seem to happen when I'm broke. I hate missing out on exclusive content 'cos of lack of funds - missing an entire product would be even more frustrating.


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I hadn't considered the effect on retailers of Kickstarter, but I still imagine it would be small considering the market and the number of gaming stores. And as previous posters pointed out, I've seen plenty of KS pledge levels for retailers.

It would be an exceptional shame if this excellent opportunity to showcase awesome talent were made KS-only. By all means kickstart the funding to get t made with some awesome stretch goals, then sell it as usual. Seems like a win-win for all invloved - LPJ, designers, retailers.

I shudder when I see any sort of exclusivity in the final product, I don't want to miss out "forevar" because I couldn't back a project at a particular time.


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OK I am reanimating this thread because it looks like we may be attempting this in the VERY near future with some slight changes. For now, I will say they we are planning to to do a kickstarter focused adventure path BUT this time will be for the Cross of Fire Saga for use with the post-apocalyptic survival horror Obsidian Apocalypse campaign setting. I hope to have more to announce in the upcoming weeks which we will update here and the new thread we will be creating for it. As always, thanks for your support.

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Sounds good.

You have my email :O)

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