Will the real Gods of Golarion please stand up ?

[darkwarriorkarg]

Zahariel wrote:

The Golux wrote:

Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:

James uncharacteristically slipped up and flat-out stated Desna was a sort of cosmic butterfly...

Well, considering her "Shadow" is simply called "Black Butterfly" and her herald is a giant, peacock-tailed luna moth, that would seem to be a logical assumption anyway.

She's a surviving god from the Insect Civilization!

Dammit, there are no Brunnen-G left! Wait, there's one on Earth... Someone get Baba Yaga's hut, we're going to Ireland!

I worship Her Shadow

[Mikaze]

Quick, someone find a Desnan connection to the Blue Morpho's "bluer than the bluest blue you've ever seen" wings!

(srsly, apparently we've yet to produce screens capable of actually conveying them)

[Son of the Veterinarian]

What were we talking about again?

[Zahariel]

Son of the Veterinarian wrote:

What were we talking about again?

A potential crossover between Golarion and the Lexx universe. And before that, how some of the gods of Golarion have been around for a really, really long time, so long in fact that we'll probably never know what their whole deal is.

[xidoraven]

I love the fact that so many people feel that the notions of time and space somehow present actual problems or limitations for a divine being (of Divine Rank 0 or higher, by 3.5 standards). Deities are not mortals, and limiting them in the same way as mortals show just how unimaginative we little critters can be.

Desna is a recent focus of mine, because I am working on a new deity who is sort of an aspect of her. I have taken significant time going over her origin, story, and lore about her evolution and coming to Golarion. In addition, in any publication I have on deities, while the deities are noted as performing many activities at certain times, or even in relation to some other event at another time, there is nothing written anywhere that would definitively prevent a deity from performing their actions in the past, future, or far away on another world.

Time and space are mortal limitations, and constraining deities to them unnecessarily limits and constrains their divine potential. Especially when you consider how Paizo no longer uses Divine Rank, simply stating that the gods are gods, and either more or less powerful than one another usually by "how old" they are, etc., it really goes to show that trying to break them down into neat little categories that all make perfect sense to mortal reason is a vain and purposeless effort. Divine power is one of the few things that is allowed to just be what it is, without having a bunch of reasons and crutches to prop it upright.

I'd love to hear the official word on that one, but it seems to me that putting these kind of boundaries on a truly divine being is the first mistake one makes when categorizing them.