Super Genius's "Talented Class" Line


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Christina Stiles wrote:
Owen, I want the Talented Gunslinger. :)

listen to her, clearly she is wise :)

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Aelfborn wrote:
After submitting my suggestions in the 52 thread, I discovered this thread earlier today. Now, I see that Talented Cleric and Talented Sorcerer have been on the table. Based upon my posts in the other thread, it should be obvious that those are the two that I would like to see next although Barbarian is third on my list.

I second Aelfborn's suggestion. His take on a Talented Sorcerer in the 52 thread is great IMO and I would be very happy to see it translated in a work of Genius.


As a printed book lover that is addicted to Kickstarter, I would jump on BOTH suggestions. Or a RGG monster compilation ;-)
Past that I am just happy to see the ranger next. Once that is out I can make the ranger/rogue I am always tinkering with but never quite happy with


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I think I would like to see Talented Gunslinger. This class feels really restricted in terms of player choice.

Scarab Sages Contributor

The Talented Gunslinger is almost sure to happen, but it may be a bit. Meanwhile, people looking for more flexibility for their gunslinger might want to take a look at Ultimate Options: Grit and Gunslingers (currently 52% off!)


Stephen Radney-MacFarland wrote:
TheDisgaean wrote:
Also, have you seen the Advanced Classes Playtest? Specifically their Swashbuckler class. I think they're ripping off SGG's Fusilier from "Grit and Gunslingers".

As the designer of the both the gunslinger and the swashbuckler, and as a person who has not read Grit and Gunslingers, I assure you there was not ripping off.

The fact that I have not read Grit and Gunslingers is no slight on Owen, who is a wonderful designer, not to mention a fantastic fella. I do plan on reading that book sometime in the future--I just purchased it a couple of days ago, actually--I just haven't been able to find the time, and now I will probably have to wait until Advanced Class Guide design is concluded.

(Playtests are hard on the time and the energy to do anything other than spend time with the family and watch occult melodramas when the long workday is over. ;-) )

All that said, I'm sure there is probably some unintentional parallel design.

When I designed the gunslinger, I wanted to create a very cinematic, action-oriented class. Something that was more action hero than other traditional class designs. That design lends itself to certain other concepts, the swashbuckler being top on that list. And it was during the gunslinger playtest that discussion started about eventually doing a swashbuckler class using the design.

We just finally got around to doing it.

Once you do get around to reading it, do you think you'd use certain elements of it if you think it works? Using the S15, of course.


I am going to purchase a couple of the Talented Books to take advantage of the sale. If you only purchase two of the following: Talented Monk, Talented Rogue, Talented Fighter, and Talented Cavalier, which two would you purchase? If you could purchase one additional one of those books, which would you choose.

Now, if you had a choice between the Additional Talent books to the supplements recommended above or picking up all four of the Talent books listed above, which would you do?

Thanks for those helping me out.


Aelfborn wrote:

I am going to purchase a couple of the Talented Books to take advantage of the sale. If you only purchase two of the following: Talented Monk, Talented Rogue, Talented Fighter, and Talented Cavalier, which two would you purchase? If you could purchase one additional one of those books, which would you choose.

Now, if you had a choice between the Additional Talent books to the supplements recommended above or picking up all four of the Talent books listed above, which would you do?

Thanks for those helping me out.

Having bought and read all the Talented and More Talented PDFs so far, if you were limited to just two, I'd very strongly recommend you grab the Talented Rogue and Monk, as well as their More Talents books. As much as I enjoy the Talented Fighter and Cavalier, I think the Monk and Rogue both benefit enormously when built from their Talented options... so much so, I'd never build a monk or rogue any other way.


Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Aelfborn wrote:

I am going to purchase a couple of the Talented Books to take advantage of the sale. If you only purchase two of the following: Talented Monk, Talented Rogue, Talented Fighter, and Talented Cavalier, which two would you purchase? If you could purchase one additional one of those books, which would you choose.

Now, if you had a choice between the Additional Talent books to the supplements recommended above or picking up all four of the Talent books listed above, which would you do?

Thanks for those helping me out.

Having bought and read all the Talented and More Talented PDFs so far, if you were limited to just two, I'd very strongly recommend you grab the Talented Rogue and Monk, as well as their More Talents books. As much as I enjoy the Talented Fighter and Cavalier, I think the Monk and Rogue both benefit enormously when built from their Talented options... so much so, I'd never build a monk or rogue any other way.

not to mention the stellar rules for combining them, perfect for an acrobat character.


Ambrosia Slaad and Christos Gurd,
Thank you for the responses. I was, actually, leaning towards the Monk and Rogue supplements.


Picked up the Monk and Rogue books last night. Upon a quick look through them, they appear very impressive!


Get them all!!!!! Even the Cavelier which no players of mine would ever play was worth picking up. My players want the Ranger, Cleric, Magus, Inquisitor, and Sorcerer, but I would get almistany class except Gunslinger since thats the only class that isn't available in my games.


Damian,
I would love to get them all right now-especially, since this is probably the last 52 sale. However, at the moment, it is not financially feasible. Currently, I am both working only part-time as a teacher for an after school program and attending school part-time in the evenings. Unless the company has web work for me after next week, I will be either on a six week unpaid vacation or receiving minimal hours at a severely reduced rate for curriculum development and/or training in new software related to classes I begin teaching after the New Year.


Barbarian?
Ranger?

Any word on eta

Scarab Sages Contributor

I *hope* to have Talented barbarian out before the end of the year, but I can't be 100% sure that's happening. There's so much to get done when starting a new company (file the LLC paperwork, write an operating agreement, get an EIC from the IRS, set up paypal and normal bank accounts, get a logo, design trade dress, set up a web site, social media sites, and any project management software or sites you want to use), that sadly Rogue Genius Games hasn't released *any* new products yet. Certainly we're nearly done with that litany of tasks, and we have things in the pipeline, but to be honest it's all taking a bit longer than I had hoped. And there are tasks, like transferring ownership of the SGG pdfs I got and setting up our accounting for our first month of sales, that are a more ongoing process.

Due to its size, Talented Barbarian isn't likely to be the first thing we release, either. I want to kick the tires of the company's processes a couple of times with things in the 9-12 page range before I hit them with a book that's likely going to clock in at more than double that.

My current hope is that we'll see Gingerbread Kaiju next week, Mythic Options: The Missing Core Feats the week after that, and then The Genius Guide to the Talented Barbarian the week of Christmas.

But a major hiccup on any of those could push Barbarian back to early in January. And I may use the Tome of Tomes or another book or two no one has heard of yet first.

Hopefully Talented Ranger will hit 3-4 weeks after Barbarian, and my current plan is to keep the Talented Classes coming roughly 1 a month after that, though I may slip back to 1 every 6 weeks if they prove too long and complicated for me to do monthly releases.


Owen, not sure whether you are referring to that one, but LRGG has a "Tome of Tomes"-supplement out...

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Yeah I even knew that once, but because their Tome of Tomes isn't about books, I forgot.
So no, that wasn't the book I was talking about. :P

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We've just been calling the Tome of Tomes as a code name, so no worries, Thilo. :)

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ShadowcatX wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Ranger then witch would be my vote. Since a book of me wasn't a option.

I'd totally buy a Talented Dark Mistress.

And wow that sounds dirty.

Well ... duh...

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Aleron wrote:

Genius Guide to the Talented Dark Mistress...

Would buy. Just saying.

Just how wore out is your soul anyways?

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Oceanshieldwolf wrote:
Another vote for Talented Dark Mistress.

Nice to see the ocean minorities are well represented in my flock.

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Feros wrote:
Yep, Talented Dark Mistress FTW.

Well of course I will win, what other possible result could there be? That was a rhetorical question by the way.

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Damian Vryce Kil'Cannon wrote:
Am I stupid? Who is the dark mistress?

Blasphemy, heretic, burn it, burn it my followers... BURN IT!

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Since Owen is no longer with SGG does this mean this thread is dead or is someone else from SGG going to take over?


This thread may (or may not?) be dead, but the Talented line moved with Owen over to Rogue Genius.


Since Owen now has RGG, and his schedule has changed substantially, probably time for a new thread.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
Damian Vryce Kil'Cannon wrote:
Am I stupid? Who is the dark mistress?
Blasphemy, heretic, burn it, burn it my followers... BURN IT!

*grabs can of gasoline*

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I took all the Talented books, and the rights to future ones, with me over to Rogue Genius. So you can keep posting here if you want (I'm certainly still reading it!), but if someone want sot switch over to a new thread I'd read that too.

A revised Talented Monk should be appearing soon as an update of the old book, with a bunch of errata and new art. Then, late in December or in early January, Talented barbarian will be coming out, followed not too long after by Talented Ranger.

Once the first rogue Genius Talented book comes out, I suspect discussion will move there if a new RGG Talented Line thread hasn't been started. :D


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

I took all the Talented books, and the rights to future ones, with me over to Rogue Genius. So you can keep posting here if you want (I'm certainly still reading it!), but if someone want sot switch over to a new thread I'd read that too.

A revised Talented Monk should be appearing soon as an update of the old book, with a bunch of errata and new art. Then, late in December or in early January, Talented barbarian will be coming out, followed not too long after by Talented Ranger.

Once the first rogue Genius Talented book comes out, I suspect discussion will move there if a new RGG Talented Line thread hasn't been started. :D

Viola! New thread.

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