paizo.com Recent Posts in Kitsune + Realistic Likenesspaizo.com Recent Posts in Kitsune + Realistic Likeness2013-06-05T01:26:01Z2013-06-05T01:26:01ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Kitsune + Realistic LikenessWeirdohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ptvz?Kitsune-Realistic-Likeness#62013-06-05T05:34:00Z2013-06-05T05:34:00Z<p>Yes, I was trying to confirm that Alter Self, unlike Realistic Likeness, <i>can't</i> be used to impersonate specific individuals, so Realistic Likeness is useful even if you have Alter Self. I guess my post was unclear.</p>Yes, I was trying to confirm that Alter Self, unlike Realistic Likeness, can't be used to impersonate specific individuals, so Realistic Likeness is useful even if you have Alter Self. I guess my post was unclear.Weirdo2013-06-05T05:34:00ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Kitsune + Realistic LikenessAlexander Augunas (Contributor)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ptvz?Kitsune-Realistic-Likeness#52017-01-17T21:19:12Z2013-06-05T04:59:12Z<p>Realistic Likeness allows a kitsune to override the normal, "You can't appear as a specific individual" rule of most Polymorph effects. Now, there's something of a split opinion as to whether or not you can use Realistic Likeness to appear as a non-human humanoid, but the feat's flavor text seems to indicate that you're still limited to humans. Talk with your GM for his/her ruling, or make one yourself if you're the GM.</p>Realistic Likeness allows a kitsune to override the normal, "You can't appear as a specific individual" rule of most Polymorph effects. Now, there's something of a split opinion as to whether or not you can use Realistic Likeness to appear as a non-human humanoid, but the feat's flavor text seems to indicate that you're still limited to humans. Talk with your GM for his/her ruling, or make one yourself if you're the GM.Alexander Augunas (Contributor)2013-06-05T04:59:12ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Kitsune + Realistic LikenessEnder730https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ptvz?Kitsune-Realistic-Likeness#42013-06-05T04:19:21Z2013-06-05T04:19:21Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Weirdo wrote:</div><blockquote>Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.</blockquote><p>Ah, yeah, Realistic Likeness specifically overwrites the exact likeness clause. Glad you found it though, that's what I was looking for. I knew there was a clause somewhere.
<p>And thanks for the Sleeves suggestion. Definitely gonna use that.</p>Weirdo wrote:Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.
Ah, yeah, Realistic Likeness specifically overwrites the exact likeness clause. Glad you found it though, that's what I was looking for. I...Ender7302013-06-05T04:19:21ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Kitsune + Realistic LikenessWeirdohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ptvz?Kitsune-Realistic-Likeness#32013-06-05T03:44:02Z2013-06-05T03:44:02Z<p><a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Transmutation-Polymorph" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Polymorph</a> effects, including Alter Self, generally cannot be used to mimic specific individuals.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Polymorph Rules wrote:</div><blockquote>Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.</blockquote><p>Disguise Self could probably be used to handle the clothes, but I'd recommend <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/sleeves-of-many-garments" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sleeves of Many Garments</a> instead. Just 200gp, less than a Potion of Bull's Strength.Polymorph effects, including Alter Self, generally cannot be used to mimic specific individuals.
Polymorph Rules wrote:Unless otherwise noted, polymorph spells cannot be used to change into specific individuals. Although many of the fine details can be controlled, your appearance is always that of a generic member of that creature's type. Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.
Disguise Self could probably be...Weirdo2013-06-05T03:44:02ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Kitsune + Realistic LikenessEnder730https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ptvz?Kitsune-Realistic-Likeness#22013-06-05T03:17:16Z2013-06-05T03:17:16Z<p>Also, would I be able to combine it with Disguise Self? For example, say I want to looking like a specific nobleman, but I don't have the nobleman's clothes, so I use Disguise Self to duplicate the clothes. Would that work?</p>Also, would I be able to combine it with Disguise Self? For example, say I want to looking like a specific nobleman, but I don't have the nobleman's clothes, so I use Disguise Self to duplicate the clothes. Would that work?Ender7302013-06-05T03:17:16ZForums: Rules Questions: Kitsune + Realistic LikenessEnder730https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ptvz?Kitsune-Realistic-Likeness#12013-06-05T01:26:01Z2013-06-05T01:26:01Z<p>Is Alter Self just as good as a Kitsune with the Realistic Likeness feat? I read somewhere that no spell can make you look exactly like a unique individual, but I can't find that text. </p>
<p>I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile for a caster kitsune to take the Realistic Likeness feat.</p>Is Alter Self just as good as a Kitsune with the Realistic Likeness feat? I read somewhere that no spell can make you look exactly like a unique individual, but I can't find that text.
I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile for a caster kitsune to take the Realistic Likeness feat.Ender7302013-06-05T01:26:01Z