Shift (Su):


Rules Questions


Shift (Su): At 1st level, you can teleport to a nearby space as a swift action as if using dimension door. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity. You must be able to see the space that you are moving into. You cannot take other creatures with you when you use this ability (except for familiars). You can move 5 feet for every two wizard levels you possess (minimum 5 feet). You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Intelligence modifier.

Dimension Door: You instantly transfer yourself from your current location to any other spot within range. You always arrive at exactly the spot desired - whether by simply visualizing the area or by stating direction. After using this spell, you can't take any other actions until your next turn.

After a wizard uses Shift, must he end his turn? Can he not take any actions, even if he may have some remaining?

Silver Crusade

Yup. The stuff you quoted covers it. Once you shift, your turn is done.

Liberty's Edge

correct, need to use your standard and move before using it. Have a 12th whom has used it alot, just have to use it at the end.


Tsk, much less useful than if otherwise. Thank you, nevertheless.

Liberty's Edge

Yes but quit useful as you get up in levels, but even at first level it lets you get out of that grapple.


It specifically States this is a Swift Action and SU power...

I wouldn't think a Swift Action would End your time...


you can use a feat "Dimensional Agility" to bypass the limitation.


Hmm; would a Conjuration(Teleporation) wizard be able to take Dimensional Agility at level 1 or would he have to wait until he can cast the spell?


GM Arkwright wrote:
Hmm; would a Conjuration(Teleporation) wizard be able to take Dimensional Agility at level 1 or would he have to wait until he can cast the spell?

Concensus seems to be that he has to wait until he can cast DDoor, so level 7 at minimum.

Silver Crusade

Wyrven wrote:
you can use a feat "Dimensional Agility" to bypass the limitation.

Was that debate ever definitely settled? I stopped paying attention, since I don't have an affected character, but I know there was a question about whether the feat applied to this ability or only to the actual Dimension Door spell.


Yes this would give you the ability to use ALL your Actions
so Swift to DD
then you still have your Stanard and Move

Liberty's Edge

Fromper wrote:
Wyrven wrote:
you can use a feat "Dimensional Agility" to bypass the limitation.
Was that debate ever definitely settled? I stopped paying attention, since I don't have an affected character, but I know there was a question about whether the feat applied to this ability or only to the actual Dimension Door spell.

Dont think so. My 12th has the feat but i have never used it for shift, being a SU. It is usually my last action anyways. Move out of cover, cast, shift back.

Sovereign Court

I think technically, Dimensional Agility doesn't help, because it specifies:

Dimensional Agility wrote:
After using abundant step or casting dimension door, you can take any actions you still have remaining on your turn.

And supernatural abilities aren't cast.


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Necro:

Applying the same logic where people are saying that since that Shift is (Su) and therefore isn't cast as a spell, you can not use dimensions agility feat. Then the counterpoint should also be true: from the dimension door description;

"After using this spell, you can’t take any other actions until your next turn."

Spells are cast. This is a swift supernatural ability i.e. you can take other actions after shifting.

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