Paper changes for book lines, and early notification


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Sczarni

When I opened up my copy of Ultimate Campaign today, the first thing I noticed wasn't the cool content -- it was the paper, different from the other hardbacks that I have.

Now, I haven't had it long enough to decide whether I like or dislike the new paper. That's not what this post is about. The problem for me was the change itself, and especially the surprise.

Was there some sort of notice that the paper would be different in Ultimate Campaign? If so, then I must have missed it. If not, I really would have appreciated some kind of heads up before I received it.

My personal default reaction to any kind of change like this is negativity. I realize that's not especially rational or mature, but it's my personality. And I know I'm not the only one who has this sort of visceral reaction. :) I think it would be a good idea for Paizo to let folks know about production value changes ahead of time, to help prevent this sort of reaction.

What do other folks think?

Sczarni

I like the change. It feels like it will stand up to use better than some of the earlier books.

I do think it was mentioned in the same blog as the price changes to the APs, but i could be wrong

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We haven't asked for a paper change. Our printer does sometimes change sources on the exact stock they get, so the gloss level changes a bit, but the paper thickness should be the same.


FWIW, I was a little taken aback as well, and then I flipped through my NPC Codex and Ultimate Equipment - I think the paper in all three is the same. I just didn't notice it before this book.


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I prefer as little gloss as possible inside books, so I for one hope it continues.

Sczarni

Like I said, I'm not really complaining about the difference, only about the noticeable change, with apparently no warning. Based on what Vic says, maybe it could be an error by the printer, or maybe something unique to my particular copy.

Vic, I found it most noticeable on the big chapter-beginning art spreads, particularly the first one (Ezren and the king looking at the family tree). It looks almost as though the paper coating is rough and uneven, and the image looks slightly faded.

Has anyone else noticed this particular issue? Would it be possible that this is unique to my own copy, or is it the same for everybody?


@ Trinite
I noticed the change as well. While I actually like the feel of the pages, the graphic spread on Chapter 1 looks washed out. The remaining 2 page spreads look fine, as does the remaining internal art. The issue seems to be limited to that particular page.

@Vic
If you flip back and forth between the chapter 1 gate and the chapter 2 gate, and look at the brown text box, you will see a noticable difference in quality.

Off topic to this particular thread, I feel I must mention that the content is outstanding.


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I checked through my book after reading this thread, and while that particular the image was fine there were a few other dark pictures that have that faded look, like the image of Merisiel on page 4.

Also, On page 92, the ink ran at the bottom of the page.

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