Holy Vindicator of Vildeis


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Chronicle of the Righteous wrote:

Martyr’s Blood (Su) You are immune to bleed effects.

Whenever you would be affected by a bleed effect, all
enemies within 30 feet gain the bleeding condition
instead as though they were the effect’s original
targets (no save; creatures immune to bleeding are
immune to this affect). The Heal DC to stop this
supernatural bleeding is 20 rather than 15.
Advanced Player's Guide wrote:

Stigmata (Su): A vindicator willingly gives his blood in service to his faith, and is marked by scarified wounds appropriate to his deity. He may stop or start the flow of blood by force of will as a standard action; at 6th level it becomes a move action, and at 10th level it becomes a swift action. Activating stigmata causes bleed damage equal to half the vindicator's class level, and this bleed damage is not halted by curative magic. While the stigmata are bleeding, the vindicator gains a sacred bonus (if he channels positive energy) or profane bonus (if he channels negative energy) equal to half his class level. Each time he activates his stigmata, the vindicator decides if the bonus applies to attack rolls, weapon damage rolls, Armor Class, caster level checks, or saving throws; to change what the bonus applies to, the vindicator must deactivate and reactivate his stigmata.

While his stigmata are bleeding, the vindicator ignores blood drain and bleed damage from any other source and can use bleed or stabilize at will as a standard action.

How would this interact? Would the Holy Vindicator keep his bonuses? Would he lose them? Or do his enemies gain them?

Silver Crusade

Dotted for the concept alone. :D

I'd say the specifics of the Vindicator override the general of Vildeis' boons. Or rather, Vildeis' boons are meant to be gifts that help her followers do her will. The stigmata are such a fitting concept for her that I'd say she'd keep them working properly. But that's not sticking entirely to the rules there. I think this is really GM adjudication territory here, hopefully favoring the flavor of the patron and PrC considering how well they mesh.


"While the stigmata are bleeding, the vindicator gains a sacred bonus"

The holy vindicator would not meet the condition so he would get no bonus.


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i would rule that both you and you opponents get the bleeding, only you get the bonuses. Seems fitting to the concept, and 5 bleed damage on a moster is hardly overpowered.


Dekalinder wrote:
I would rule that both you and you opponents get the bleeding, only you get the bonuses. Seems fitting to the concept, and 5 bleed damage on a moster is hardly overpowered.

I'd go with this interpetation as well.

Did Chronicle of the Righteous already come out in stores?!

Silver Crusade

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It is out and is fantastic.

Vildeis in particular is a stand-out addition to the setting.

Edit-okay, probably a few more days before stores but certainly available here!

Hint: Try to imagine a LG Zon-Kuthon. Not very accurate, but it'll put you near her ballpark.


Good, it's one of the few things along with Kobolds of Golarion that I find to be worth buying.

Dark Archive

Drejk wrote:

"While the stigmata are bleeding, the vindicator gains a sacred bonus"

The holy vindicator would not meet the condition so he would get no bonus.

The stigmata ARE bleeding, just not on the vindicator.


Jadeite wrote:
The stigmata ARE bleeding, just not on the vindicator.

???

I guess if someone hit's your head and makes you, i mean, your head bleeding, you are not being hurt, it's your heard being hurt, right?

Really now, we are crossing the boundary between stupidity, and insanity.

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