Mounted cleric built...

[BeholdreR]

Can a mounted cleric (with lance and animal companion with boon companion), make it in the kingmaker and still be the party’s healer?

[VRMH]

Dunno 'bout Kingmaker, but I see no reason why sitting on a mount and holding a lance would make a Cleric any less of a healer.

[Tirq]

I like the idea of the mounted Cleric. I was thinking about trying it some time, but there aren't any deities that I actually like, match the Animal domain, and have a melee weapon for their prefered weapon. I could always just simply go with a heavy mace, though.

[BeholdreR]

Do you think I need to dip 1lvl into fighter (for full plate,martial prof lance and feat), or that 1 lvl will be bigger loss than profit?

There is no real tank in the party and also no healer so i think a mounted cleric could do decent damage (when needed)and still be able to spend all his spells for healing/buffing...

[Tryn]

intead of fighter dip, try a holy vindicator dip (heavy armor, mart weapon, channel energy normal and "Divine Shield") :D

[BeholdreR]

Yes but I cant dip in until level 8!!! I might never reach that level! I’ll start lvl 3 and we have low xp!
So I think 1lvl Dragoon fighter or maybe Unbreakable fighter would be better,
Or even 1lvl Battle Oracle could be helpful (not as much as the fighter though)!
Also cavalier might be interesting choice. Is there any good teamwork feat to use with my mount by the way?

[Tirq]

Battle Oracle isn't suggested. The minuses aren't worth the bonuses for a 1 level dip.

Dragoon doesn't do much until higher levels(3-5 for weapon training and whatnot), but a 1 level dip would be worth it.

Unbreakable gives you 2 feats that are nice... but you don't come up on them nearly as much as the Dragoon's.

[BeholdreR]

I wonder if it's better to have Human or a small race?
medium mounts could me more usefull for sure!(no roc or bat allowed)

but -2 to strength and one less feat is a big deal...or not?

if small is "better", how wins gnome vs hafling (only core races allowed)

also does a "battle" cleric like this needs a high charisma (for channeling and because in kingmaker everybody needs charisma i think)??

[ShadowcatX]

I'd probably go with dipping the cavalier archetype that grants power attack and another bonus feat at first level.

And for most games you would need to be small, but kingmaker isn't most games. Enjoy having a medium sized mounted character when you can.

And no, a battle cleric can do fine without high charisma but realize you won't be healing as much as most clerics (instead, you'll actively be preventing the party from taking damage by killing foes). And no, everyone does not need charisma.

[BeholdreR]

If you mean the Gendarme, he does take power attack but not another feat!
also I don't really understand how a cavalier + animal companion would work.
-Does the animal companion gain light armor?
-if it dies can i find another after one week or after 24 hours?
-Does This new mount gain the link, evasion, devotion, or improved evasion special abilities until the next time the cavalier gains a level.

It's a little messy I think, although it's a good idea if it works like druids animal companion!

[ShadowcatX]

Classes that give animal companions generally stack with one another for the purpose of a single animal companion.

Ie. Cavalier (with mount) stacks with the ranger's effective druid level for purposes of determining the cavalier's mount (assuming the ranger takes the pet as his option). This is in place of him actually gaining a pet as a ranger, however, not in addition to.

[BeholdreR]

First of all thanks for the responce!

But I'm not sure I got this right!
If I take the first lvl as a cavalier I will have a cavalier's mount and the and the animal companion's lvls will make the mount stronger (that means that I gain light armor and if it dies i can find another after one week ) BUT if I take the cavalier lvl after I gain the animal companion I'll have an animal companion without light armor prof and I if it dies i have to do the 24 hours s$#@?

Also,I'm sold to small race after all!
what do you suggest, hafling or gnome?