Invisibility and Stealth

[Bigdaddyjug]

So wince there have beena few threads about lately discussing invisibility and stealth, I thought I would post this thread with 4 succinct questions that everybody can click FAQ on.

1. What is the DC to notice an active invisible creature that is less than 30 ft away and not using stealth?

2. What is the DC to pinpoint an active invisible creature that is less than 30 ft away and using stealth?

3. What is the DC to notice an active invisible creature that is more than 30 ft away and not using stealth?

4. What is the DC to pinpoint an active invisible creature that is more than 30 ft away and using stealth?

For all of these questions, assume there are no other modifiers for movement, speaking, combat, or anything else.

[Bigdaddyjug]

Bump because this needs more than 3 FAQ requests.

[thejeff]

Sadly I can see the holes left wide open already.

Because you specify, no modifiers and no stealth use for both Notices, this doesn't address the question of whether any modifiers, including stealth apply to the Notice DC.

It also doesn't address the question of a pinpoint DC that isn't based on Stealth.

It's really hard to come up with concise questions that nail down what we really want to know.

I'm hoping Wraithstrike is right and they already plan to address this.

[Bigdaddyjug]

Crap I did screw them up. It was supposed to be a notice and a pinpoint each with and without stealth.

Can a mod come and nuke this thread so I can repost it with the correct questions?