Anyone have the old Silver Marches sourcebook handy?


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Looking for old 3.0 and 3.5 stats for Wulfgar, Bruenor and Cattie Brie as well as any others from that area of the Forgotten Realms novels, will anyone help with this?


Yeah, I got it, but the only one that is even close to justifying the character is bruenor. Drizzt is laughable, and wulfgar is like lvl 6 or something.


Wulfgar is 9th with a 19 strength that much I recall, Bruenor is 13th don't recall any stats. Actually it is because these characters are so terribad that I am looking for their stats in the first place!

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Silver Marches is the 1/2E version of them. Are you playing a 3.5 game? I'm not sure what their stats are in such a thing.

Drizzt was 15th level in one version and 19th level in another, a ranger with fighter weapon spec and 'instant kill' potential. He had the 20 Dex only drow could get, too. His 15 Str didn't give him any damage bonuses, but he was wielding a +5 Scimitar and a Frost Brand (+3, +6 vs fire).

Wulfgar had a 19 Str in a world where 18/00 was the highest a human could have. 18 Con and 16 Dex, but yeah, he was a young man and only level 6 at the end of the first book...tossing around a +5 returning L warhammer (blowing the WBL out of the water, naturally). You'd probably have to give him Jotunbrud.

Bruenor was a level 9 dwarf fighter with 17 Str and 19 Con, tough as a dwarf could be.

Cattie-Brie was a level 4 fighter with a 17 Dex, IIRC.

What they were after they levelled up, I have no clue, nor do I know their 3.5 stats.

==Aelryinth


Well, I do vaguely recall them having different stats in 2e but I am specifically looking for the stats in the 3.0 Forgotten Realms Silver Marches Sourcebook, thanks anyway.


I disagree with the comment it was 1/2e version.

I have this book, this is the 3.0 version (I believe)

here's a the link


in the book, page 96, Wulfgar is a 9th level barbarian.

HP: 99, init+2, speed: 30' AC 18
attack +18/+13 melee (1d10+10/19-20/x3) with Aegis-fang
or +16 ranged (1d10+8/19-20/x3) with Aegis-fang

chaotic good, Fort +9, Ref +5 Will +4

Str 19, dex 15, con 17, int 13, wis 12, chas 13

height: 6'10"

he has +3 hide armor

Aegis-fang is a +4 throwing maul of returning.


page 77 says Bruenor Battlehammer is a level 13 fighter

HP 163, init +0, speed: 20' AC 23

Attack: +21/+16/+11 melee (1d12+11/17-20/x3) +3 keen greataxe

neutral good, fort +14 ref +4 will +8

str 18, dex 10, con 22, int 15, wis 13 chas 13

height: 4'6"

+3 plate, +3 keen greataxe, amulet of natural armor +2
gauntlets of ogre power (str 18?)
periapt of wound closure, potion of cure serious wounds,
potion of heroism

After reading all the books, I pictured Bruenor with a shield in one hand and a dwarven battle axe (1 handed exotic weapon) in the other.


I couldn't find any stats on Cattie Brie or Drizzt.


Thank you Bloodwort, we have Drizzts stats and that was VERY COOL of you.


I agree about the axe and shield for bruenor. I kinda pictured C-B as an archery based ranger rogue with a kick ass side arm/ scimitar.


This may seem odd, but for PF, I think drizzt is more in line with a (non) TWF lore warden/ sword and shield ranger. Twinkle is used more like a shield than a full time off hand weapon with the occasional tw rend. I would even throw snake and panther style in the mix if they would apply to weapons instead of unarmed strikes.


Dang ninjas, just found those pages in my book. Though with that I can add, for comparison their 2E stats from Hall of Heroes.

Bruenor 9th fighter
s:17, I:12, W:15, D:15, C:19, CH:15

Drizzt 10th ranger
s:13, i:17, w:16, d:20, c:15, ch:14

Wulfgar 6th barbarian
s:19, i:15, w:14, d:16, c:18, ch:15

Catti-Brie 3rd fighter
s:12, i:14, w:16, d:16, c:15, ch:17
Regis (Fight level theif per text), I assume 5th as he has 26 hp
s:10, i:13, w:15, d:17, c:15, ch:15

Artemis 7th fighter/11th assassin
s:13, i:16, w:15, d:17, c:15, ch:14


Bloodwort wrote:
I couldn't find any stats on Cattie Brie or Drizzt.

IIRC, Drizzt's stat-block was featured in the 3e Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (EDIT: pg.177), and WotC put Catti-Brie's stat-block on a blog-entry in the early Noughties.

EDIT: the blog has Catti-Brie as a 7th-level Fighter and Regis as a 7th-level Rogue, as well as stat-blocks for the dwarven Bouldershoulder twins and Guenhwyvar. Link below:

Archived page from Wizards Books

(Am I the only one who'd like to see the force weapon property ported forward into Pathfinder?)


Artemis Entreri was ranger 12/fighter 4/rog 1 /asn 1 with str 14, dex 20,con 15 ,Int 16, wis 16, cha 13. My buddy took the print out with the rest.


@trace, thanks for that link.

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Byrdology wrote:
This may seem odd, but for PF, I think drizzt is more in line with a (non) TWF lore warden/ sword and shield ranger. Twinkle is used more like a shield than a full time off hand weapon with the occasional tw rend. I would even throw snake and panther style in the mix if they would apply to weapons instead of unarmed strikes.

Twinkle is a +5 Defender, so that's hardly unlikely.

==Aelryinth


Does that mean I did good, or bad?

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For build? he's a literary character, a ranger so he can dual-wield and a fighter to get the weapon spec. In PF he'd be a ranger/two weapon fighter archetype so he can dual wield without huge penalties.

He was built on 1E mechanics, where you COULD dual wield two weapons like that without penalties, if you had a 19 or higher dex, which he did. He doesn't translate well to 3.5 and higher.

==Aelryinth


No, a ranger can dual weild because he does.

Which is funny, as with 3rd Edition, he got Two-Weapon Fighting as a feat while he was still having only Fighter levels and doesn't benefit from the Ranger class feature at all. So logically, he should have taken archery style.

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My point was that he was dual wielding scimitars. That's not a light off hand weapon. In 1E, if you had a 19 Dex, you could dual wield with no penalty, and you could wield in your off hand anything you could use in your primary.

He'd be at -4/-4 if actually dual wielding scimitars, without an archetype. But he's not, because that's how he was made.

==Aelryinth


3.5 had oversized TWF, and twin weapon style... I used it for a Goliath with twin greatswords, but it could work for the "D" as well.


You are welcome, Conundrum.

Trace, thank you for posting that link for the companions of the hall.

Byrdology is correct, Forgotten Realms 3.0? (or was it 3.5) had twin weapon style but I think it was for Drow characters only, or maybe Drow and natives of Waterdeep but I'm not sure.


Bloodwort wrote:

You are welcome, Conundrum.

Trace, thank you for posting that link for the companions of the hall.

Byrdology is correct, Forgotten Realms 3.0? (or was it 3.5) had twin weapon style but I think it was for Drow characters only, or maybe Drow and natives of Waterdeep but I'm not sure.

‘Twin Sword Style’ was a regional feat in the 3.0 FRCS, updated to 3.5 in the Player’s Guide to Faerun. For reference, it was available mainly to drow from the Underdark cities (according to that stat-block in the FRCS, Drizzt has it) but also to elves and half-elves (drow and half-drow?) from Waterdeep, and humans from Waterdeep or Sembia. It had no effect on attack-bonus or damage, but allowed a character fighting with two blades to designate one opponent and gain a +2 shield bonus to AC, which could stack(!) with a buckler, against that opponent’s attacks. #sonowyouknow

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