Southern Garund Gazetteer


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Who here in the forums would want Paizo to publish a gazetteer on Southern Garund? Why or why not?

Silver Crusade

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ABSOLUTELY WANT

We've been told that Garund becomes more fantasy the further you go south. I wanna roll around in that.

I want to see Dehrukani, with its Mwangi/Azata based culture and otherworldly architecture.

I wanna see Holomog, with its dinosaur riding amazons fighting dinosaur riding lizardfolk.

I want to see all the new cultures that would come out of Garund's African-based themes meeting high fantasy. I want to see more of the lands Jatembe may have walked across.

I've been wanting more on that area since the Inner Sea World Guide dropped some hints.


What Mikaze said. Plus catfolk!


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Yes, very much want this.

Aranea!!!

Silver Crusade

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For srs. Not only would there probably be new human ethnicities to explore, who knows what new non-human races might be spread out through South Garund along with the catfolks and aranea(who totally need an Anansi!).


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I just looked up aranea characters and the anansi folklore. Southern Garund definitely needs these!


+1 yes please plus catfolk.

Dark Archive

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Besides seeing the campagin setting get more bigger...I'd also say kitty-folk, and other races.

Also, Holomog, and thier poking at Geb.

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Me too!

Verdant Wheel

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I still hope Paizo somehow translate more about the Orishas and other african fae and gods.

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I had an amazing amount of fun with my contribution to 'Heart of the Jungle' so... OMG YES for a Southern Garund Gazetteer!

*cough* Just saying :)


I would love to see what would be the "core races" for Garund. I would assume catfolk, and of course human, but hopefully the rest would be new.


I remember reading somewhere that Holomog has ancestry that traces back to Azlant. Is that correct?


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You had me at Dinosaur riding lizard men empire any else just makes it even better.

Silver Crusade

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Andru Watkins wrote:
I remember reading somewhere that Holomog has ancestry that traces back to Azlant. Is that correct?

I think it's been stated that the Holomogi are either Garundi or Mwangi in ethnicity. I hope that remains the case.

I think there's a small ethnic group further north covered in Heart of the Jungle that fits that description though.

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Andru Watkins wrote:
I remember reading somewhere that Holomog has ancestry that traces back to Azlant. Is that correct?

That's not correct. Azlant didn't have much to do with Garund at all, with the exception of what shows up in Serpent's Skull... that's one of the main themes of Serpent's Skull, in fact.

The Holomogians are their own ethnicity, although I highly doubt that's what they're called.


Andru Watkins wrote:
I just looked up aranea characters and the anansi folklore. Southern Garund definitely needs these!

Well, they already have something aranea-like. Perhaps a little more sinister than the tales of Anansi, though. Muahaha!


Given the hints that southern Garund will be somewhat "highly magical," I'm really curious to know what/if their relationship with the Azlanti might have been like. Whether they had large civilizations in contact (rivalry?) with them, or whether such civilizations developed post-Starfall.


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And, of course, there must be a hidden city built around a giant skymetal deposit there.

(Okay, not really, but it would be cool. :)

Silver Crusade

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Cthulhudrew wrote:

And, of course, there must be a hidden city built around a giant skymetal deposit there.

(Okay, not really, but it would be cool. :)

Well, if someone was looking for a country with catfolk royalty...


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How about some Mysterious Cities of Gold? (Based on a Spanish myth set in the Americas, admittedly, but the setting of the cartoon would fit really well into a highly magical fantasy Garund as well.)


A majority of Catfolk are found in Southern Garund? This is why we need a gazetteer!


Yes Andru Watkins, the majority of catfolk are found in Garund. Which is one of the reasons I would like this continent explored, but it is not the only one.

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Cthulhudrew wrote:
Given the hints that southern Garund will be somewhat "highly magical," I'm really curious to know what/if their relationship with the Azlanti might have been like. Whether they had large civilizations in contact (rivalry?) with them, or whether such civilizations developed post-Starfall.

Very little. The bulk of Azlant's direct interactions with Garund were very limited, and were detailed in "Serpent's Skull."

Dark Archive

I actually don't want a gazetteer of southern Garund.

I like having it as a bizarre "off the map" area which I can use for pretty much anything I want.

However, I am (and will remain) a Campaign Setting subscriber, so if Paizo publish it then I'll buy it.


James Jacobs wrote:
Very little. The bulk of Azlant's direct interactions with Garund were very limited, and were detailed in "Serpent's Skull."

I can see I'm going to have to get the remaining parts of that AP.


I still want this, especially with Nurvatchta.


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I still still want this.

Grand Lodge

I too desire to see this. Amazonians riding dinosaurs? Yes please, it sounds like it could inspire some lovely archetypes.


OMG Why hasn't a Garund book happened yet?!?!?

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AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:
OMG Why hasn't a Garund book happened yet?!?!?

Because the plans I have for it aren't QUITE yet ready for prime time.

Of all the continents we've yet to do much with... Garund is probably the one that I'm the most interested in, personally.


James Jacobs wrote:
AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:
OMG Why hasn't a Garund book happened yet?!?!?

Because the plans I have for it aren't QUITE yet ready for prime time.

Of all the continents we've yet to do much with... Garund is probably the one that I'm the most interested in, personally.

Really looking forward to it! Any small spoilers as to what else to expect in Southern Garund? What´s going on with the tree cities?

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Albus wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:
OMG Why hasn't a Garund book happened yet?!?!?

Because the plans I have for it aren't QUITE yet ready for prime time.

Of all the continents we've yet to do much with... Garund is probably the one that I'm the most interested in, personally.

Really looking forward to it! Any small spoilers as to what else to expect in Southern Garund? What´s going on with the tree cities?

Nope; no spoilers ready yet. It's still QUITE a way out.


Hmm. You emphasized QUITE twice in two responses. Clearly, the word QUITE is some kind of hidden acronym for something involving the Garund gazetteer.

:p

Grand Lodge

Cthulhudrew wrote:

Hmm. You emphasized QUITE twice in two responses. Clearly, the word QUITE is some kind of hidden acronym for something involving the Garund gazetteer.

:p

Quadiran Underlings Iterate Talkative Elusiveness, QUITE?


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Absolutely. Also an AP to go along with it. I want to see some truly African inspired material. Serpent Skull doesn't really cover it.


Arikiel wrote:
Absolutely. Also an AP to go along with it. I want to see some truly African inspired material. Serpent Skull doesn't really cover it.

You can almost bet if they release a southern Garund gazetteer it'll be when they release a southern Garund AP. That seems to be their modus operandi.


I will add my voice to the many who would also want this book.


James Jacobs wrote:
AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:
OMG Why hasn't a Garund book happened yet?!?!?

Because the plans I have for it aren't QUITE yet ready for prime time.

Of all the continents we've yet to do much with... Garund is probably the one that I'm the most interested in, personally.

Just you saying that makes it easier for me to wait for it. Because knowing that you have plans, and that you are most interested in it yourself means good things. (No pressure...)

Dark Archive

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Still my favorite of the lands yet to be developed.

Vudra, Iblydos, Casmaron, Arcadia, Sarusan, all sound kind of interesting, but Southern Garund, all higher-fantasy and not-your-father's-Tolkien-fantasy, sounds really tempting.

It could be neat if some of the 'common' races are practically unknown in these distant lands, so that a dwarf or an elf showing up might be as 'weird' or 'cantina' to these natives as a gnoll PC or ghoran PC would be in Irrisen or the Lands of the Linnorm Kings.


I'd like them to delve even deeper into the Shory with a southern Garund Gazetteer. While may have been wiped out in the Inner Sea, there's no reason that they couldn't have gone south. I'm also interested in Droon, which is most likely the last great nation of lizardfolk.


Southern Garund would be very nice! Also an excuse to make Dinosaurs Revisited!


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As many others on here have said before me, I am VERY interested in a Southern Garund gazetteer. For all of the reasons mentioned, and by the way Mr. James Jacobs, Garund is one of my favorite areas in Paizo's campaign setting too! :)

The Exchange

Andru Watkins wrote:

Who here in the forums would want Paizo to publish a gazetteer on Southern Garund? Why or why not?

I would love to see this and what's south of Sargava and Nex.

The Exchange

Flynn Greywalker wrote:
Andru Watkins wrote:

Who here in the forums would want Paizo to publish a gazetteer on Southern Garund? Why or why not?

I would love to see this and what's south of Sargava and Nex.

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I totally agree.

The Exchange

Albus wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote:
OMG Why hasn't a Garund book happened yet?!?!?

Because the plans I have for it aren't QUITE yet ready for prime time.

Of all the continents we've yet to do much with... Garund is probably the one that I'm the most interested in, personally.

Really looking forward to it! Any small spoilers as to what else to expect in Southern Garund? What´s going on with the tree cities?

I love hearing that. I love what parts of it I have explored as a GM. It is rich with lost empires, intrigue and mayhem.

Silver Crusade Contributor

+1

The Exchange

Andru Watkins wrote:

Who here in the forums would want Paizo to publish a gazetteer on Southern Garund? Why or why not?

I definitely would the thought of more ruins, societies, nations and serpent folk is intriguing.

Liberty's Edge

Andru Watkins wrote:
Who here in the forums would want Paizo to publish a gazetteer on Southern Garund? Why or why not?

I would buy it, because I am a huge fan of non-European cultures.

Having said that, "Africa" is probably my least favorite, and I'd prefer just about any other "Distant Shore" before Garund. But, yes, I would still buy it.


I would love to see Paizo's Southern Garund treatment when they get around to it. What I'm especially hopeful for is a much broader treatment than fantasy Africa supplements often provide; RW Africa is just as much an admixture of different cultures, ethnicities, and geographic regions as anywhere (moreso, really, given its size) and has an incredible depth of history that is rarely explored and appreciated by most, IMO.

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