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Ok. I will make a magus and it is going to be at level six...since other players think my barbarian was op, and my gm let me start my character all over at the same level . How should I reset it? Classes? Builds? Races? Equipment? Scores? Armor? Feats? Archetypes? Skills? Character Traits? What are your opinions?I would love to hear all of your responses....

Dark Archive

Considering your character was OP'd enough that other players asked you to roll up a new one why not just make one without the help of the boards?

Maybe you're optimizing a little too much for the power level your group likes to play at. The boards are helpful but they can also lead to some pretty overpowered builds that many GM's/players would never consider unless they frequented the Paizo site.

Not that I'm telling you how to play, of course.

That being said I know there are plenty of threads with advice on magus builds, many revolving around the scimitar and dervish feat. If you do a keyword search you should see them.


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or you can just go to the guide of guides sticky and find the guide to magus in that thread.


I suggest a dwarven magus that one hands a beer mug and offhands a spell.

Theres a feat that will help negate the -4 for being nonproficient with the beer mug, so thats a good idea to take.

I suggest skill ranks in craft: pottery to help make new beer mugs, should yours break


Well to start, you should avoid the racebuilder.

Just pick a base race, and make a normal Magus, seriously they are hard to screw up.


Lol. No beer for me


Lol... any responses?


-Race: Tiefling (with the Maw trait)/Elf/Human
-Stats: Dex>Int>Con>Wis>Str=Cha
-Feats: Weapon Finesse, Dervish Dance, Empower Spell, Intensify Spell, Combat Casting, Extra Arcane Pool
-Traits: Magical Lineage (Frostbite), Metamagic Master (Shocking Grasp)
-Archetypes: I like Bladebound; free magic weapon that scales with you? Hell yes.
-Magus Arcanae: Arcane Accuracy, Spell Shield
-Weapon: Scimitar
-Armor: Mithral Shirt -> Celestial Armor at high levels
-Handy Magic Items: Pearls of Power, Belt and Band of Int and Dex
-Spells: Lvl 1 Intensified Shocking Grasp, Lvl 2 Empowered Frostbite


GM Arkwright wrote:

-Race: Tiefling (with the Maw trait)/Elf/Human

-Stats: Int>Str, dex, con, cha, then wis lastly
-Feats: Weapon Finesse, Dervish Dance, Empower Spell, Intensify Spell, Combat Casting, Extra Arcane Pool. Level 6" not 13
-Traits: Magical Lineage (Frostbite), Metamagic Master (Shocking Grasp)
-Archetypes: I like Bladebound; free magic weapon that scales with you? Hell
yes.(true dat)
-Magus Arcanae: Arcane Accuracy, Spell Shield me likeeee. But by level 64 i have only one qrcana if i have blade bound
-Weapon: Scimitar
-Armor: Mithral Shirt -> Celestial Armor at high levels
-Handy Magic Items: Pearls of Power, Belt and Band of Int and Dex
-Spells: Lvl 1 Intensified Shocking Grasp, Lvl 2 Empowered Frostbite


I chose aasimar...


-Aasimar aren't amazing for Maguses; they don't get a bonus feat and other races have equal or better stat modifiers. But if that's what you've chosen, you should be fine. Choose one of the heritages boosting either str/int or dex/int.
-If you're going Weapon Finesse and Dervish Dance you don't need Strength and so you can dump it. If not then don't bother with the feats.
-Maguses get bonus feats; besides, something to aim for is good.
-Get Arcane Accuracy then.


Here's one I made earlier.


Just to let you know, i already chosen varient aasimar heritages, and all of my edits on urs arent done, i only did a couple edits


I am level 6, and I am planning to become a dragon disciple ... but I need one level of arcane class which can cast spells without preparation ...im a level 6 magus. Which class should i do that has best spells so I can continue the spells in disciples?


Plz answer...


There are three decent ones; Summoner, Bard and Sorcerer. The problem is that they all use Charisma as their main casting stat, not Intelligence. I'd say go Sorcerer (Draconic). Dragon Disciple isn't the most amazing prestige class for the magus but it's okay, particularly if you're going with the Strength build.

Take Magical Knack to keep your caster level up.


GM Arkwright wrote:

There are three decent ones; Summoner, Bard and Sorcerer. The problem is that they all use Charisma as their main casting stat, not Intelligence. I'd say go Sorcerer (Draconic). Dragon Disciple isn't the most amazing prestige class for the magus but it's okay, particularly if you're going with the Strength build.

Take Magical Knack to keep your caster level up.

Additionally, if your group is open to using 3rd party materials, there is also the Cabalist Magus archetype, which uses spontaneous casting instead ofprepared. Might be what you're looking for.


I know ... that has is the exact thing I was thinking of doing, but should I do it on magus or sorcerer?


Oh cityhunter, but i already chose bladebound magus...but i could combine those 2!


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Actually, i looked at the archetype, and it is more of a sorcerer archetype than a magus archetype, and looks lame...no offense bro


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darkorbit wrote:
Actually, i looked at the archetype, and it is more of a sorcerer archetype than a magus archetype, and looks lame...no offense bro

None taken, just a suggestion.

If you dont like the cabalist, i'd probably recommend going into DD from sorcerer rather than magus. Unless you have some RP or character reason behind choosing magus, it will certainly be a much more seamless transition from a naturally spontaneous casting class.


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Oh ok


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And, if i choose the magical knack for my sorcerer, will it gain the spell slots and everything or only spells will be at +2 caster level?


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The advantage of the cabalist is that you wouldnt have to dip another class, lose casting progression and bab, so actually that would be really neat for a dd-build. But 3pp suck and straight magus is stronger than a dd dipping one anyway.


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darkorbit wrote:
And, if i choose the magical knack for my sorcerer, will it gain the spell slots and everything or only spells will be at +2 caster level?

The latter.

It gives you a +2 bonus on caster level up to a maximum of your character level, so any variable spell effects dependent on level get calculated with that +2, but you do not gain new spell slots, etc.

MK helps multi-classed casters keep the spells they do have relevant to their level, but doesn't give them any additional spells.


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The Wildblooded (Sage) sorcerer archetype allows you to be an Intelligence caster instead of a Charisma one. The change also applies to powers and such.


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Ok.... so can i have a draconic bloodline with the sage sorcerer archetype? (For dragon disciple )


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darkorbit wrote:
Ok.... so can i have a draconic bloodline with the sage sorcerer archetype? (For dragon disciple )

You might want to check with your GM for approval, but taking the Crossblooded archetype would let you have both Draconic and Arcane, with the Wildblooded archetype then turning Arcane into Sage. Whether the two archetypes can stack is iffy per RAW, but since Crossblooded only combines bloodlines rather than changing anything about them, it's not too much of a stretch for a 3rd-party/houserule friendly GM.


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Yep you can crossblood and get both and validly attain the Dragon Disciple class. If you want some REAL iffyness, the way Dragon Disciple is worded you can stack your DD levels with your second bloodline as well as the draconic one.


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Instead of stacking both bloodlines, can i just remove those powers and just keep the intel to charisma thing? And can i crossblood in the same level?


darkorbit wrote:
Instead of stacking both bloodlines, can i just remove those powers and just keep the intel to charisma thing? And can i crossblood in the same level?

How Crossblooded works is that it gives you both arcana, then every time you would get a bloodline power you choose which of the two for that level you want. So yes, you can easily take just the arcana from Sage and everything else from Draconic. And yes, it can be done with only a single level in sorcerer.


Yes! I am planning to get to a level seven magus, then do the sorcerer that I'm planning, then continue for a while on dragon disciple


Is that good?


I'd stick to pure Magus.


Pure magus is defenetly better as it allows you to wear heavy armor cast spells and do amazing crit damage

it would even be better tot ake a couple of Fighter lvl's for the Crit feats. at high lvl's

a lvl 12 magus with 2 lvls of fighter is a lvl 8 fighter for feats

considering you get a black blade you can easily make keen crit feats would awesome.

bleeding critical you would need bab 11 but if you get a few fighter lvl's you could get it faster. you could get it at lvl 14 instead of 15 with only 1 lvl of fighter and there is more examples

but it's just a thought


I wanna become a dragon disciple cuz they get amazing ability score bonuses, and pretty decent spells if u had a pretty decent arcane class b4 u multiclassed into it.


the stat bonusses are not worth a dip in sorc and giving up magus progression. not at all. Just build two characters, a pure magus and a DD and compare the results.


sure?...


If you dont believe me, do rhe builds and the math.


And i wanna dragon disciple, because they are ssooooo awesome


Then just go ahead:P


And also, i think i have an overpowered character in my campaign. He is level 5 and has 29 or 31 ac, and has 22 strength, which gives an attack bonus of 11! What are ur opinions?


PlZ answer becuz this is a concern to me


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Its not overpowered, everything you mentioned is pretty easy to achieve with some optimization. Further this depends on the class, build, scores and so on anyway, so just these dates are not saying that much but no its not overpowered.


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Actually, the guy rolled his scores, and he has a full plate and a tower shield, which give 19 because he bought an enhancement bonus, and he thinks that he can wield a double weapon and a tower shield in combat, and he thinks that the tower shield doesn't lower his speed. I am level 6 magus, and it seems like he can kill faster than me....


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That sounds like you should check his build.


Should this be a problem?


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マギ(古代ペルシャ語

maguš、ラテン語 : magi 複数形、単数形 はマグス (magus))は、本来、

王国で宗教儀礼をつかさどっていた

シア系祭司階級の呼称。

サンタポリナーレ・ヌオヴォ聖 堂のモザイクに描かれている

名称

アヴェスター語 形マグ(magu, maγu)に由

ギリシャ語 形の単数 マゴス (μάγος)、複数マゴイ (μάγοι) を経由しラ テン語化した。英語では単数メイガス (magus)、複数メイジャイ (magi)、形容 詞メイジャン (magian)。普通名詞 なの で小文字始まりだが、

では固有名詞 あつかいで 大文字始まりで

本来のマギと意味の変遷

ヘロドトス の『歴史』には、

は、死体を鳥や犬に食いちぎらせたり、 アリや蛇をはじめその他の爬虫類などを 無差別に殺す特異な習慣があった」と記

これらの習慣はアヴェス

されている。

ターに記された 宗教法と一致しており、 彼らはゾロアスター教 と同系の信仰を 持っていたと考えられる。

アケメネス朝 ペルシア史上では、王位簒 奪者のマギであったガウマータを、

イオス1世が倒して王位に就いたとされ ている。

キリスト教 世界では 新約聖書 、福 音書の『マタイによる福音書

れる東方(ギリシア語で anatole。当時は ペルシャのみならずエジプト北部などそ の範囲は広い)の三博士を指して言う場合 が多い。三人の王とも訳される。直訳す れば星見すなわち占星術師であるが、マ タイ福音書の文脈では、天文学者 と推測 される。

やがて、マギという言葉は人知を超える 知恵や力を持つ存在を指す言葉とな り、英語の magic などの語源となった。 これはマギが行った奇跡や魔術が、現代 的な意味での奇術、手品に相当するもの だったと推定されるからである。また磁 石を意味するマグネット magnet,

シウム magnesium の語源も、マギが奇 跡のために使用したことに由来する、

いう説がある。

サーサーン朝 時代では、中期ペルシア語 (パフラヴィー語 )でゾロアスター教の 神官であるマギのことを「マグ」ないし 「モウ」 mgwy/mag,mow と呼んでい た。特にオーフルマズド神(アフラ・マ ズダー)やアナーヒード女神(

ター)などの神々に捧げられた

を管理するような高位の神官は「モウバ

(mgwpt/mowbad, mōbad)と呼ば れ、モウバドの管理のもと多くのマグた ちが神殿の運営や儀式を執り行っていた ようである。サーサーン朝の始祖アルダ シール1世の祖父である名祖サーサーン はイラン南西部ファールス地方の都市 イ スタフルのアナーヒード 神殿の管理職で あったこともあり、同王朝は創建初期か らゾロアスター教団とも密接な関係に あったが、第2代君主シャープール1世 か ら第7代君主ナルセ1世 の時代にかけて活 躍した神官カルティール は、最高位の神 官であるモウバダーン・モウバド (Mowbadān-Mowbad

中のモウバド」の意味)を名乗って王朝 全土の諸神殿を統括し、

ダヤ教、マニ教、仏教など外来諸宗教の 勢力を弾圧し、国家宗教としてゾロアス ター教団の威信を拡大させるなど、サー サーン朝の宗教政策を主導したことで知 られている。

タバリーなどのアラビア語 ・近世ペルシ ア語の年代記や地誌などの諸文献では、 ゾロアスター教神官・聖職者である「マ ギ」や広くゾロアスター教徒一般を指し てマジュース سوجم majūs と呼ばれてい

福音書が伝える三博士 の礼拝

イエス 関連項目

イエス・キリスト /キリスト 受胎告知 キリストの降誕 イエスの洗礼 荒野の誘惑 イエスの奇跡 最後の晩餐 キリストの磔刑

キリストの昇天

「東方三博士 」を参照

『マタイによる福音書』

イエスが生まれた時、東方で知ら せとなる星を見たマギ(博士たち)がエ ルサレムまで赴き、ユダヤ人の王として 誕生した方はどこかとヘロデ大王 に尋ね る。ヘロデは動揺しながらも側近に尋 ね、側近は聖書の記述からそれはベツレ ヘムであると博士たちに教えた。博士た ちはさっそくその場を発つと、星にした がってイエスのいる場所につくことがで きた。幼子の前にたどり着くと、彼らは ひれ伏し、黄金、乳香、没薬を贈り物と して捧げた。ヘロデは新しい王など生ま れては困るので、博士たちに場所を教え るよう命じていたが、博士たちは夢のお 告げにより、ヘロデを避けて別の道から 故郷に戻った。これを知ったヘロデは大 いに怒り、ベツレヘムとその周辺一帯に いた2歳以下の男の子を、一人残らず殺 させたが(幼児虐殺 )、イエスは両親と ともにエジプト へ逃れた後だった。

『ルカによる福音書 』に描かれたイエス の誕生場面ではこの三博士は登場せず、 代わりに飼い葉桶に寝ていた幼子イエス に羊飼い達が訪れる場面がある。西洋美 術やクリスマスに飾られる馬小屋の飾り では、博士と羊飼いが一緒に描かれてい るものも多い。

前掲の福音書には記述がないが、博士た ちの人数は贈り物の数から伝統的に3人 とされている。彼らの名前として西洋で は7世紀から次のような名が当てられて いる。それはメルキオール(Melchior, 黄 金(王権の象徴)、青年の姿の賢者)、 バルタザール(Balthasar, 乳香(神性の 象徴)、壮年の姿の賢者)、カスパール (Casper, 没薬(将来の受難である死の 象徴)、老人の姿の賢者)である。いず れもペルシア人の名でなく、何らかの意 味も確認できない。

ラルヴァンダド(Larvandad),ホルミス ダス(Hormisdas), グシュナサファ (Gushnasaph)という別の名が当てられ ているが、こちらはペルシア語の人名と して意味をなしている。

会では、カグバ(Kagba), バダディルマ (Badadilma) 等の名前を当てている。

インドの一部の伝統では、ある人 物が光明を得るためには、三人の他の光 明を得た人物によって、その人物の将来 の光明が予言される必要があるという言 い伝えもある。

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