Level 2 0 Sorcerer help


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Hey, my DM said we could make a level 20 character with 350k wealth. Anyone have ideas for items/spells/feats?


Going draconic, btw. I like draconic (wings, etc.)


Ill be first to say we might need more info class? What type of char are you building


Sorcerer, draconic, human...that's about it?

Grand Lodge

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I believe it's any class, as long as it's draconically themed? In which case, I suggest the Paladin/sorcerer/Dragon Disciple.

Race: I don't see this build being too hard on feats, so let's make this Angel-Kin Aasimar (from blood of Angels, if you don't have this then go human, they are VERY close). This gives us +2s to our favorite stats, and a few meh stuff. Resistances are pretty much negligible, as well as darkvision. The skill bonuses are weak, as well as the SLA. It's pretty much a toss up between a feat in a not too feat heavy build, or a bonus to charisma, which gives +1 to all saves, +1 to AC (if you take a 1 level oracle dip), and some other bonuses.

Class: DD10/Paladin 4(Oath of Vengeance)/Sorceror1(Draconic BLoodline only) Takes you to 15. Then you have a choice. 5 more levels of sorcerer takes you to CL 13. The paladin levels give you more smites (pretty ignorable given oath of vengeance) and some more paladin spells, along with a meh aura. Divine Bond is sorta cool. Since I don't know quite what you want, I'll leave the last 5 levels open. You might also want to take a single level oracle of lore dip to get the charisma to AC rather than dex. THat's pretty powerful. The rest will assume you take that one dip.

Stats: Base-Str 17 (13 pts) Dex 10 Con 14(5 pts) Wis 7 Int 11 (1 point) Cha 15(7pts)
Level spending: +3 str, +1 cha, +1 in either wis or int (your choice, Skill points or a bonus to will and perception).
Race spending: +2 str, +2 cha is aasimar.
Final Modified without magic: Str 22 Dex 10 Con 14 Wis 8 Int 11 Cha 18
These stats are the most variable part of this build, you can easily make this more balanced by lowering the strength by 1 or 2.

Feats:
1: Power Attack
3: Skill Focus Perception
5: Arcane Strike-Seriously swift action more damage. Use this when you aren't smiting.
7: Craft Wondrous Item (only if you take those 4 levels in sorcerer, this will greatly reduce costs for wondrous items)
9:Eldritch Heritage: Orc we want the bonus to strength and the lvl 15 power is nice too. The whole chain is from UM
11: Improved Eldritch Heritage
13: Dimensional Agility
15:Dimensional Assault
17: Greater Eldritch Heritage. We now have sweet dragon form AND Giant form when those are used up.
19: Dimensional Dervish (this is pounce)
(Bonus if human) Take the alternate giving you 3 skill focuses. Do perception and any two others, diplomacy and something else. You can then replace the SF Per with Rending claws if your GM allows it (it requires claws, it''ll depend if he counts the class feature or not). If your GM doesn't, then I really don't know what to put here. Lunge might be good.
Bloodline feats (3 from DD, more if you take the final 4 levels as sorc): Improved Initiative, Blind Fight (seriously, with blindsense this is pretty awesome for fighting invisibles and the like), Power Attack. Toughness is a good #4 choice, as the sorc levels don't have great hit dice, and this will be front line. Other feats to consider: with the oracle dip, you might want to go dual-cursed (tongues and Lame, use lame as your progressing one, tongues for draconic) to get the misfortune revelation. Seriously, immediate action rerolls? Sign me up.

Traits:MAGICAL KNACK +2 CL to sorcerer.
Reactionary (unless you have a skill in mind you really want to take ranks in)

Magic: Wow, 350k only? Ouch. +5 WIld Mithral Full Plate of speed : 89,500 gp.
Ring of Evasion: 25k (iffy, but very nice to have)
If you have Seeker of Secrets: Clear Spindle Ioun Stone and Wayfinder 4,500 gp. Immunity to mind control like dominate or charm or hold person (NOTE: Does not protect from Confusion. Some believe it's vs. evil only, but I don't believe that)
Amulet of Mighty Fists: +3 or so, give it keen and ghost touch. Sadly, you can't craft wondrous on this.
+2 Keen Ghost Touch Adamantine No-Dachi. This is sorta a backup weapon in the rare case you run out of claw rounds anf form of the dragon. It's also pretty nifty, you might just want to use it instead.
Belt of Physical Might+6Str/Con: 90,000, only in our price range with craft wondrous item, bringing it down to 45,000
Headband of CHarisma +6: 36000, 18000 with Craft.

Beyond these, your magic is fairly customizable. A lot of it is your own preferences, and I was underestimating the weapons a bit, you might want to invest more in those (I'm pretty sure this leaves you still with a fair bit).

Grand Lodge

...I totally didn't realize it specified level 20 sorceror in the title. I made this assuming all you wanted was a draconically themed character.

I also opened it before your post, so I didn't see your clarification.

Silver Crusade

Don't feel too bad. I was looking for a good idea for a Paladin of Apsu build, and I thnk I'm going to steal this, so thanks!

Grand Lodge

Haha thanks.

Grand Lodge

One thing to note for both the disciple and reg sorc. Defensive item boosts are nice, but not necessary (says the guy who suggested a +5 full plate). Let me explain. Defensive spells are going to be big ones you need, and operate on miss chance. I'm talking 1st round Displacement + Quickened Mirror image. Beyond that, simply controlling the battlefield negates threats. Non-airborne heavy hitter? Wall of Force. Enemy caster? Feeblemind. Yes this is better as a wizard with more spells, but seriously, pick some of these up as a sorc, you won't regret it. Also, some of these can be compensated for with Shadow Evocation and Shadow Conjuration (and their big brothers). While many discard these, I saw an amazing guide (two actually) Shadow Evocation and Shadow Conjuration which really revealed their versatility, a must for pathfinder sorcerers, who lack versatility. Also, as they are higher level, their DCs are higher, which can be boosted by the spell foci.

Dark Archive

Is your GM aware just how low that wealth is for a level 20 character? I feel bad for the non-spellcasters in your party.

Shadow Lodge

WBL you should be getting 880,000gp.


What do you want to do? Blast? Debuff? What?

Assuming blasting. Be a Human Crossblooded Dragon / Orc Sorcerer, using the Human's alternate favored class bonus. For powers, go Touch of Rage, Fearless, and the rest from the Draconic Bloodline.

Here's an example spell-list for you to work off of. I did this off the fly.

0 - Prestidigitation, Mage Hand, Mending, Open/Close, Ghost Sound, Ray of Frost, Read Magic, Detect Magic, Acid Splash, Dancing Lights, Message
1 - Mage Armor, Silent Image, Floating Disc, Magic Missile, Grease, Unseen Servant
2 - Resist Energy, Pyrotechnics, Knock, Communal Mount, Fiery Shuriken, Acid Arrow
3 - Fly, Haste, Slow, Seek Thoughts, Communal Resist Energy, Magic Circle Against Evil
4 - Wall of Fire, Stone Shape, Shadow Conjuration, Dragon's Breath, Black Tentacles, Dimension Door
5 - Spell Resistance, Telekinesis, Magic Jar, Shadow Evocation, Wall of Force, Communal Stoneskin
6 - Form of the Dragon I, Cold Ice Strike, Tar Pool, Contingency, Contagious Flame
7 - Delayed Blast Fireball, Greater Teleport, Greater Shadow Conjuration, Project Image, Ki Shout
8 - Form of the Dragon III, Polymorph Any Object, Mind Blank, Summon Monster VIII, Greater Shadow Evocation
9 - Wish, Mage's Disjunction, Time Stop

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