Volunteer Griefing


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I understand that any system needs testing, and that is what Early Enrollment, or EE, will be for.

One of the communities main goals during this buildup and testing phase will be to find out where the bugs and inconsistencies are, report it and move on. This is common practice. GW will have to test against encounter balance, PVP, and commerce among other things, and on particular thing they will ALSO have to test is the ANTI-Griefing, and reputation system.

To this end, I think it is VITAL that these systems are in place and effective before the primary public release date of the product.

All that being said, during the early days of the game, would it be beyond your grasp, or will, to create ways of testing these last few important systems, meaning you will need to forge your Ban-Hammer with care, precision, and grace. The only way to do that is through thorough testing of a volunteer group within the EE enrollment period.

Every week or so players will make a test or raid against one or more other players, and casually playing the CN, to CE roles of a typical griefer during the other times. These few will do whatever slimy backwards, abusive, antagonizing, exploitative, and subversive as they can manage to get away with in some kind of semi-coordinated effort (I was thinking a Thieves Guild sort of thing), where these systems will be levied against these folks. Ruined reputation, and whatever settlement/CC consequences on that would allow you to test the real time consequences of both your Alignment, and Reputation systems in conjunction with member action and influence.

I understand players don't like griefers, but if we dont practice, and try to get ahead of the curve then we will have to start off with real experience stressing the mechanics during the beta testing period.

I volunteer to be an anarchist!

Goblin Squad Member

Even though it will hurt me to do so (*sucks back tears), I will sacrifice myself for the needs of the community and with heavy heart don the title of griefer. No! My friends...... shed not a tear for me. For it is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.

:b

Goblin Squad Member

Carbon D. Metric wrote:
I volunteer to be an anarchist!

Well, perhaps not all out anarchy, but The UnNamed Company intends to test the Attacker, Outlaw, Criminal, Thief, Trespasser flags and the SAD system out almost continuously and beginning early on in the EE (day one for me).

However, for us it will not just be for the testing period. We will be bandits umtil the day that we die!!

If you are interested in joining us in our outlawed endevours, then apply:

The UnNamed Company

Goblin Squad Member

Well played Bluddwolf, well played!

Goblin Squad Member

Carbon D. Metric wrote:
I understand that any system needs testing, and that is what Early Enrollment, or EE, will be for.

Sorry, you misunderstand. Early Enrollment is the real game with limited features and population. If you use it to 'test' griefing on players, you could be volunteering to be banned.

Alpha will be for testing, and there are likely to be times when GW will have alpha players test specific systems, but playing in a way to deliberately make other testers want to quit is unlikely to be one.

Goblinworks Executive Founder

There's a very fine line involved between testing the systems and being the kind of person those systems are intended to discourage. If having a reputation system results in more people trying to do the things that it is intended to discourage, the rupitatiob system fails utterly.


I would certainly advise sending an Email to the Devs with your "offer". That way if something were to happen, like you were to be banned as a real griefer, you would have their reply "ok'ing" your testing the system ;).

Goblin Squad Member

Dont take it too seriously guys. These systems do need to be tested, but I think more likely it will be a natural testing as EE progresses. If the devs do need help in "actively" testing it out im sure they will ask for it. But I think what will happen is a lot of this will be tested and debugged durring internal alpha and for early alpha players.

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