SkaldiBard |
Hello,
I wrote a large part of the Pathfinder Bard back in 2004, when I was in my last year of Junior college. I was told that a separate book of credits would be published for everyone to look at, as they couldn't fit everyone who contributed into the back of the Pathfinder book. Where might I find that book? The new RP group I'm with just won't believe me when I told them, that yes, I did write a good portion of that class. They want to see the physical proof presented to them.
Can you help me please? Thank you.
the David |
2004? Really? I thought the Pathfinder RPG was launched in 2009, playtesting started in 2008. This being your very first post here, I'd find it hard to believe you contributed anything to Pathfinder. And actually, most of the bard was based of the OGL bard (2003), which was based on the 3.0 bard (2000), which was based on etcetera, etcetera.
Also, why on Golarion would Paizo publish an additional book of credits that nobody cares for? Do you have any idea how much that would cost?
Starbuck_II |
2004? Really? I thought the Pathfinder RPG was launched in 2009, playtesting started in 2008. This being your very first post here, I'd find it hard to believe you contributed anything to Pathfinder. And actually, most of the bard was based of the OGL bard (2003), which was based on the 3.0 bard (2000), which was based on etcetera, etcetera.
Also, why on Golarion would Paizo publish an additional book of credits that nobody cares for? Do you have any idea how much that would cost?
Pretty sure he started work on ideas on the Bard in 2004. Pathfinder didn't use all of the OGL version as it uses rd/day.
So he said he started the idea of using rds/day in 2004.
Cheapy |
There were additional contributors to the Pathfinder core rulebook, but to the best of my knowledge they're all listed out in the Additional Contribution section of the credits:
Additional Contributions: Tim Connors, Elizabeth Courts, Adam Daigle, David A. Eitelbach, Greg Oppedisano, and Hank Woon
In addition, if you ended up having given the suggestion on the forums, they didn't necessarily give credits through that, but may have used it anyways since technically they own everything you post here. I know there are a few feats that people suggested on the forums that ended up being in various books, and there were no credits for those.
The Jade |
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Paizo stole the name Pathfinder from me when James Jacobs saw me riding around in a Nissan Pathfinder. When I confronted him about it at Gen Con and he threw his bagel up into the air to distract me, slapped the red state of Texas onna my cheek, and ran up the street with feline grace.
Sometimes Goliath wins. You just have to suck it up, excuse yourself from the room, and weep into your hands until the make-up washes off revealing the treasure map your uncle tattooed there for you.
Scripps |
My amazing life story was actually the major inspiration for Dave Arneson and Gary Gygax to develop D&D in the first place. In 1974 ... When I was -8 years old.
In all seriousness though, my impression of the Paizo folks is that if somebody really did contribute -- in almost any way -- they wouldn't have a problem acknowledging it. Even a great deal after the fact and even if the contribution were minute.
If the OP is "for reals," my suggestion would be to contact somebody at Paizo via email.
GeraintElberion |
Hello,
I wrote a large part of the Pathfinder Bard back in 2004, when I was in my last year of Junior college. I was told that a separate book of credits would be published for everyone to look at, as they couldn't fit everyone who contributed into the back of the Pathfinder book. Where might I find that book? The new RP group I'm with just won't believe me when I told them, that yes, I did write a good portion of that class. They want to see the physical proof presented to them.
Can you help me please? Thank you.
This is cute but no, there's nothing we can do to help you.
Nothing at all.
LazarX |
My amazing life story was actually the major inspiration for Dave Arneson and Gary Gygax to develop D&D in the first place. In 1974 ... When I was -8 years old.
In all seriousness though, my impression of the Paizo folks is that if somebody really did contribute -- in almost any way -- they wouldn't have a problem acknowledging it. Even a great deal after the fact and even if the contribution were minute.
If the OP is "for reals," my suggestion would be to contact somebody at Paizo via email.
With the demonstrated writing style of the OP, it's more likely that I'll win top prize at the next PowerBall than it is that he deserves credit for anything other than being a really desperate and pathetic internet troll.
SkaldiBard |
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I am sorry, for awakening your forum trolls. No it is not a joke. This may be my first and second post, but it is only because I have emailed Paizo on this matter and have gotten no response. This is my 2nd attempt at making contact with them.
As for the name I have chosen, isn't it obvious? I have chosen that which I love, and could happily spend countless hours daydreaming about the most to represent myself.
To all of the doubters and haters responding to this thread. I am simply going to say: I don't care if you believe in me, any more than you care if I believe in you.
Thank you all, Marc Radle, Scripps, Odraude, Starbuck II, and Cheapy for being honest and sincere with me.
In response to Cheapy: Yes it started on forums, but at their request we switched to direct email correspondence during which we did a lot of back and forth on the Pathfinder Bard, and I'm quite certain the person I was working with told me that I was going to get some kind of book credit (if only my name) for all the work I was doing.
Now, I would have used the email correspondence address to contact them about this matter directly, but the Mailer Demon says it no longer exists.
Berik |
Apologies for the teasing, but at least from your original post it sounds like you must be thinking of something else or at least have confused some of the details. 3.5 only came out in 2003 itself, Pathfinder wasn't even being developed until 5 years after that. Are you meaning that you exchanged emails with somebody at Paizo back in 2004 over changes to the Bard class which were similar to what ended up happening in Pathfinder RPG? Or just got the date wrong?
SkaldiBard |
Berik, I am pretty certain it was 2004, many of the dates, facts, times, things I remember happening align properly with that date. I could probably write a very long post on all of those facts. It certainly wasn't 2006 because I was on the streets looking for a job at the time. In 2008, I was deeply involved in another project and never would have diverted any time from it.
As I remember in September of that year, they were talking about setting templates up for publication, and specifically asked me to spell check and grammar edit my own work for presentation to another group of people. It was going to be professionally printed up on brochures, or little posters by a graphic designer who was female I remember, and put on tables. (As odd as that sounds) The possibility of being open to making additional edits to the class was mentioned by my contact but he wanted to see what others had to say about it all first before we changed anything.
In January or February of the next year, I was informed that they really liked particularly my ideas of the Pathfinder Bard, it was well received, and no additional edits would be needed, they wanted to keep it 'as is'.
Buri |
I am sorry, for awakening your forum trolls. No it is not a joke. This may be my first and second post, but it is only because I have emailed Paizo on this matter and have gotten no response. This is my 2nd attempt at making contact with them.
As for the name I have chosen, isn't it obvious? I have chosen that which I love, and could happily spend countless hours daydreaming about the most to represent myself.
To all of the doubters and haters responding to this thread. I am simply going to say: I don't care if you believe in me, any more than you care if I believe in you.
Thank you all, Marc Radle, Scripps, Odraude, Starbuck II, and Cheapy for being honest and sincere with me.
In response to Cheapy: Yes it started on forums, but at their request we switched to direct email correspondence during which we did a lot of back and forth on the Pathfinder Bard, and I'm quite certain the person I was working with told me that I was going to get some kind of book credit (if only my name) for all the work I was doing.
Now, I would have used the email correspondence address to contact them about this matter directly, but the Mailer Demon says it no longer exists.
If you're serious about this contact a lawyer.
Wrath |
Not sure if he wants a lawyer, all he wants is to show his friends that what he claims is true.
Mate, pop on over to the ask James Jacobs forum and ask him. He wrote most of the Bard as far as I can tell.
Or better yet, track down the person you were talking with about it and send them a private message. The Paizo staff are fantastic at responding to those if the questions are legitimate. Check the forum part at the top of their profile and you'll see a tab that says send PM.
This way you'll get your response and won't get the doubt and troll comments sent your way. If what you say is true, then it all works out.
If what you say is untrue, then I suspect you'll ignore both those bits of advice and keep trying to push this thread.
I suggest we all leave this alone for a day or two and see what happens.
Cheers
Skeld |
I am sorry, for awakening your forum trolls.
Forgive us for poking fun, but your story doesn't make much sense. Your dates don't add up. The fact that you can't remember anyone's names doesn't help. Also, you're talking about something that supposedly happened nearly 10 years ago.
-Skeld