Spontaneous Casting with Multiclass PC


Rules Questions


Can a multiclass Cleric/Druid "lose" a cleric spell to spontaneously cast a summon nature's ally spell of the same level or lower? (And vice-versa, "lose" a druid spell to spontaneously cast a cure spell of the same level or lower?)

Spontaneous Casting does say "any spell". Some reason I've always assumed it was only the spells from that class, not from other classes.

Silver Crusade

No, you can only trade in a druid spell for the summon natures ally spells.


TimrehIX wrote:
No, you can only trade in a druid spell for the summon natures ally spells.

I thought so too, but it doesn't say that though. The cleric spontaneous casting says, "lose any prepared spell" as opposed to "lose any prepared cleric spell". The druid spontaneous casting says, "lose a prepared spell", which still isn't "lose a prepared druid spell".

The way it reads, a multiclass cleric/wizard could prepare Magic Missile, and then "lose" it to spontaneously cast Cure Light Wounds.

Shadow Lodge

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actually, I am pretty sure it does work.

FAQ wrote:

Sorcerer: Do the bonuses granted from Bloodline Arcana apply to all of the spells cast by the sorcerer, or just those cast from the sorcerer's spell list? (page 72 of the Core Rulebook)

The Bloodline Arcana powers apply to all of the spells cast by characters of that bloodline, not just those cast using the sorcerer's spell slots.

General rule: If a class ability modifies your spellcasting, it applies to your spells from all classes, not just spells from the class that grants the ability. (The exception is if the class ability specifically says it only applies to spells from that class.)

—Jason Bulmahn, 10/21/10

The ability modifies spells so it modifies all spell

Silver Crusade

I thought that I`d bump this rather than start my own thread.

Note that I particularly care about PFS so I really care about RAW and NOT RAI or GM fiat.

The new rulings on SLA got me thinking about Mystic Theurges.

Does this mean that ANY Wizard 3/Cleric 1 qualifies for mystic Theurge?

Can cast 2nd level arcane spells (duh).

They can convert the 2nd level wizard spells into cure light wounds spells and therefore cast 2nd level divine spells.

If this is legal, the set of things allowing early entry into Mystic Theurge just grew much larger.


No, firstly because sacraficing a 2nd level spell to cast cure light wounds (which is a 1st level) would not get you there.

Though, whether or not you can sacrifice a 2nd level arcane spell to cast a 2nd level divine spell may still be open to interpretation, but I lean towards no until some sort of FAQ says otherwise.

The above mentioned FAQ about sorcerer bloodlines applying their bonus to any spells casts does not really suggest anything towards whether you can sacrifice an arcane spell to spontaneously cast another spell.

Beyond that, a witch and wizard whom both prepare spells could sacrifice a spell to spontaneously cast a cure spell if you had levels in cleric, but a sorcerer/cleric wouldn't be able to since the sorcerer doesn't prepare spells. I think the RAI is that a cleric can loose a prepared cleric spell not a prepared spell from another class.

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