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The merger of Texas and Mexico as an Energy producing Superstate. With one million wind turbines an income can be achieved in the way of 100 trillion over twenty years. Austin can be upgraded to a Parliament City, Mexico City to a 25 million population megacity, Huston into a Hydrogen/hydrocarbon factory and export hub, and another million wind turbines over the next ten years thus turning New Texas into an Energy Superpower by 2050.
With an income in the way of 10 trillion per year as of 2050 new Texas will have control of pretty much the destiny of North America. Its ability to provide cheap energy will cause it to become an industry growth region.

So Thoughts? Flags? A dedicated Parliament City? A mega-city? New Texas owning the Rest of North America? It wont even need to tax people or companies.

Shadow Lodge

I'm pretty sure Texas would never take Mexico. With all the bad blood over border crossings and all; the only state I'd say less likely to do something like this would be Arizona.

Only slightly less sure Mexico would never take Texas. Only slightly.

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Orthos wrote:

I'm pretty sure Texas would never take Mexico. With all the bad blood over border crossings and all; the only state I'd say less likely to do something like this would be Arizona.

Only slightly less sure Mexico would never take Texas. Only slightly.

Lets say that they did. Texas and Mexico merging to become an energy producing 'New Texas'? Would people see the benefit in real wealth rather than a state of poverty?

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OK lets talk flag of New Texas. Mexico-Texas looks kind of like a giant crescent moon (or a shark-fin/wave).

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Why you always messin' with stuff in the states? What about Australia and Japan becoming a new country? Panaustral could merge the vast open spaces of Australia with the techdev of Japan. Factories everywhere!!! It would rule.
[/endsnark] :p

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Fake Healer wrote:

Why you always messin' with stuff in the states? What about Australia and Japan becoming a new country? Panaustral could merge the vast open spaces of Australia with the techdev of Japan. Factories everywhere!!! It would rule.

[/endsnark] :p

I'll get to the BIllion Population City in Australia when I have all the other pieces in place.

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yellowdingo wrote:
Texas and Mexico merging to become an energy producing 'New Texas'?

You could call it "Texaco."

(Does that have meaning to anyone outside the States?)


Ha ha. Yellowdingo's a secessionist.


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I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?


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Mouthy Troll wrote:
I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?

When I was a kid, I wanted to see a picture of George Washington beheading King George after a climactic battle, because there could be only one.

My teacher was not amused.


Fake Healer wrote:

Why you always messin' with stuff in the states? What about Australia and Japan becoming a new country? Panaustral could merge the vast open spaces of Australia with the techdev of Japan. Factories everywhere!!! It would rule.

[/endsnark] :p

That...would be awesome!!!


Mouthy Troll wrote:
I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?

I think Charles Darwin getting funky with a dodo bird would be cute.

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Mosaic wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Texas and Mexico merging to become an energy producing 'New Texas'?

You could call it "Texaco."

(Does that have meaning to anyone outside the States?)

Yes, Even in Australia I know of Texaco...and don't think I didn't consider it. New Texas sounded better.

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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Ha ha. Yellowdingo's a secessionist.

Only for Scifi Purposes...and that email I sent to the Texas Legislature recommending New Texas build a million wind turbines and become a 200 Trillion Dollar income superState by 2050.


Waiting for it.....

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Ralph Pootawn wrote:
Mouthy Troll wrote:
I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?
I think Charles Darwin getting funky with a dodo bird would be cute.

Oddly enough the statue of Stuart the explorer was torn down by drunken vandals.

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Garydee wrote:
Waiting for it.....

The Scifi?


yellowdingo wrote:
Ralph Pootawn wrote:
Mouthy Troll wrote:
I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?
I think Charles Darwin getting funky with a dodo bird would be cute.
Oddly enough the statue of Stuart the explorer was eaten by drunken dingos.

They should do something about that dingo problem.


yellowdingo wrote:
Garydee wrote:
Waiting for it.....
The Scifi?

No. I'll tell you in due time. I'm waiting for something to occur.


Why New Texas? Why not New Mexicoooh wait...


He's jealous of our awesomeness. It's sad really.

Sovereign Court

Orthos wrote:

I'm pretty sure Texas would never take Mexico. With all the bad blood over border crossings and all; the only state I'd say less likely to do something like this would be Arizona.

Only slightly less sure Mexico would never take Texas. Only slightly.

West and East Berlin had a lot of bad blood over boarder crossings too. Never stopped them.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Mouthy Troll wrote:
I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?

When I was a kid, I wanted to see a picture of George Washington beheading King George after a climactic battle, because there could be only one.

My teacher was not amused.

For you. (NSFW)


Samnell wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Mouthy Troll wrote:
I nominate we chip in to build a statue of George Washington pissing in a Loyalist's face for downtown Darwin. Who's with me?

When I was a kid, I wanted to see a picture of George Washington beheading King George after a climactic battle, because there could be only one.

My teacher was not amused.

For you. (NSFW)

been looking for that one for years. I thought there was a version where he leaped out of the water and killed king George though.

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Garydee wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Garydee wrote:
Waiting for it.....
The Scifi?
No. I'll tell you in due time. I'm waiting for something to occur.

Two Chickens to have sex in the street?

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Fabius Maximus wrote:
Why New Texas? Why not New Mexicoooh wait...

That's why...

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Ralph Pootawn wrote:
He's jealous of our awesomeness. It's sad really.

No..just concerned about the failings.


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YD, how would New Texas make $100 trillion/year, when the world GDP is only $69 trillion/year?

Also, you're forgetting the Alamo, something you're expressly not supposed to do.


Irontruth wrote:

YD, how would New Texas make $100 trillion/year, when the world GDP is only $69 trillion/year?

Also, you're forgetting the Alamo, something you're expressly not supposed to do.

YD's get-rich-scheme goes something like this:

1. Cover New Texas (or other place picked by YD) in wind turbines
2. Abolish law of supply and demand
3. Sell ridiculous amounts of electricity at current prices
4. Profit


Wouldn't it be better to call it Texaco? =)

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Mosaic wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Texas and Mexico merging to become an energy producing 'New Texas'?

You could call it "Texaco."

(Does that have meaning to anyone outside the States?)

I liked it better when he said it.....


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Irontruth wrote:

YD, how would New Texas make $100 trillion/year, when the world GDP is only $69 trillion/year?

Also, you're forgetting the Alamo, something you're expressly not supposed to do.

3% growth for 40 years brings it to 225 trillion.


Fake Healer wrote:
Mosaic wrote:
yellowdingo wrote:
Texas and Mexico merging to become an energy producing 'New Texas'?

You could call it "Texaco."

(Does that have meaning to anyone outside the States?)

I liked it better when he said it.....

Sowwies...


The Diplomat wrote:
Orthos wrote:

I'm pretty sure Texas would never take Mexico. With all the bad blood over border crossings and all; the only state I'd say less likely to do something like this would be Arizona.

Only slightly less sure Mexico would never take Texas. Only slightly.
West and East Berlin had a lot of bad blood over boarder crossings too. Never stopped them.

Not really. The GDR government was the only one who had a problem with their people fleeing the country. There was some political hassle, but it never devolved into "bad blood". The refugees were welcomed in the west.


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I don't think the plan works when New Texas would more than bankrupt itself in the futile battle to eliminate the corruption and violence in Mexico in order to make it stable enough to function in the manner he describes.

Particularly without the benefit of the United States military backing it (which even then wouldn't likely be enough to do the job).

Given the significant anti-government sentiment evidenced by some Texans, they're not going to play nicely if "New Texas" tries to draft them for purposes of pacifying Mexico, either.

That's not even getting into the internal fighting from those that didn't want to secede from the US, and the war with the US itself who isn't going to want Texas' resources to leave the union.

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Interesting factoid.

The only reason that Texas ever existed as an independent Republic, was because for years, the United States wouldn't take it.


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LazarX wrote:

Interesting factoid.

The only reason that Texas ever existed as an independent Republic, was because for years, the United States wouldn't take it.

I'm sure that had nothing at all to do with a significant political bloc in Texas that didn't want the United States to take it, either...(They also wanted to stretch The Republic of Texas all the way to the Pacific Coast, incidentally).

Silver Crusade

Catprog wrote:
Irontruth wrote:

YD, how would New Texas make $100 trillion/year, when the world GDP is only $69 trillion/year?

Also, you're forgetting the Alamo, something you're expressly not supposed to do.

3% growth for 40 years brings it to 225 trillion.

That doesn't mean the world is going to start spending 45% of its GDP on energy.

Liberty's Edge

Also, ALL of his schemes are based on the massive demand for wind turbines his scheme creates raising the price and the massive glut of electricity not causing the price to plummet.

It's like all of his schemes. It works in his head, but it ignores the real world.


And I'm still not sure why Texas needs Mexico for this scheme to work. Wouldn't they be better off just filling Texas with turbines and/or solar panels before absorbing Mexico?

Sovereign Court

I think Tex-Mex would be better.

And then Texas because controlled by corrupt Police and Drug Cartels.

I say let them go


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Huh. A large desert with vast oil reserves populated by heavily armed religious fundamentalists who don't like homosexuals, womens' rights, or centralized government.

We'd be invading it for oil in a week.

Shadow Lodge

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And the inevitable Texas bashing begins. Time to hide this thread.


IceniQueen wrote:

I think Tex-Mex would be better.

And then Texas because controlled by corrupt Police and Drug Cartels.

I say let them go

Quite aside from the fact that, historically speaking, to get a majority of Texans in favor of secession you need to threaten to take away their slaves, no. Too many innocent bystanders to just cut loose into what would within a year or so be the North American Saudi Arabia.

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Bearded Ben wrote:
Irontruth wrote:

YD, how would New Texas make $100 trillion/year, when the world GDP is only $69 trillion/year?

Also, you're forgetting the Alamo, something you're expressly not supposed to do.

YD's get-rich-scheme goes something like this:

1. Cover New Texas (or other place picked by YD) in wind turbines
2. Abolish law of supply and demand
3. Sell ridiculous amounts of electricity at current prices
4. Profit

What is the demand for enough energy to launch an ocean liner sized spaceship into space on a maglev once a day?

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Orthos wrote:
And the inevitable Texas bashing begins. Time to hide this thread.

I think they hate the idea of Texas being the sole survivor of the Collapse of the USA.

The Exchange

Celestial Healer wrote:
Catprog wrote:
Irontruth wrote:

YD, how would New Texas make $100 trillion/year, when the world GDP is only $69 trillion/year?

Also, you're forgetting the Alamo, something you're expressly not supposed to do.

3% growth for 40 years brings it to 225 trillion.
That doesn't mean the world is going to start spending 45% of its GDP on energy.

Given Africa can be bought on line as an economy ultimately worth 20 billion-billion, raising it's populace out of poverty will get you more GDP.


BigNorseWolf wrote:

Huh. A large desert with vast oil reserves populated by heavily armed religious fundamentalists who don't like homosexuals, womens' rights, or centralized government.

We'd be invading it for oil in a week.

Hey, Dingo. That's what I was waiting for. I knew it wouldn't be long. ;)


Garydee wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Huh. A large desert with vast oil reserves populated by heavily armed religious fundamentalists who don't like homosexuals, womens' rights, or centralized government.

We'd be invading it for oil in a week.

Hey, Dingo. That's what I was waiting for. I knew it wouldn't be long. ;)

6.1% unemployment right now.

I love the whole "those ignorant f&+*ing Texans" spiel.


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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Garydee wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Huh. A large desert with vast oil reserves populated by heavily armed religious fundamentalists who don't like homosexuals, womens' rights, or centralized government.

We'd be invading it for oil in a week.

Hey, Dingo. That's what I was waiting for. I knew it wouldn't be long. ;)

6.1% unemployment right now.

I love the whole "those ignorant f#@#ing Texans" spiel.

Some people have been so well indoctrinated that the truth doesn't matter, Spanky. It's best just to ignore them.

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