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Premise: you are playing a pregen in a tier 5-9 adventure (which means you have to play the level 7 pregen), with the intention of the chronicle being assigned to a new character (with the gold earned reduced to 500GP).
Unfortunately, the character dies during the mission. Under the old rules, unless the rest of the party decided to pay for a "raise dead" (and restoration) that was it - the newly-created character gets a 0XP chronicle with the character marked as 'dead'.
With the 4.3 guide, though, it is now possible to sell off a pregen's equipment to pay for a "raise dead". A level 7 pregen has more than enough equipment to fully fund the necessary spells.
If that were to be done, how much gold does the chronicle show? The same 500 a character would get if nobody had died? A large-ish negative number (the amount of gold that would normally be awarded on success, reduced by the cost of the raise & restorations; this would typically be around -5000GP)? Zero GP? Some other number?
Obviously nobody is going to raise a pregen if the end result will be a 1st-level character 5000GP in the hole, but is that what the rules would require?
And, just in case your head isn't already spinning: what if it were some other character who died? Could the player of the pregen opt to sell off equipment to pay for the raise of the other character? How would this affect the amount of gold awarded?
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Since I don't have the guide in front of me I'm not sure what it says specifically, so this is the ball park answer.
I would start the 1st level character with the 500 gp and they would loose what they did not earn from the scenario; fame, prestige or boons. They would still get disfavors and afflictions unless the 4.3 guide says otherwise. I would however not give them any item access at all since they should have had to pay for a raise dead.
I would not allow the selling of a pregen character's items for a raise dead for another character.
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This is a good question and something I think Mike Brock would need to address. Until then, I think it would be open to GM interpretation.
One thing I wouldn't do is cross off any items the PC had access to. Item access has nothing to do with how much gold a PC earned or spent to clear conditions. It is merely a list of the items the PC/group found during the adventure.
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Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator
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As Derek advised, if you sold off the pregens equipment for the purpose of raising dead, the new, 1st level "real" character would receive 500 GPs, and the earned amount of XP and PP that was achieved during play.
Also, a pregen may not sell equipment to help another character be raised from the dead.
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Oh dear, I have been at a table where this was misunderstood both by myself and others. We sold a Kyra to a brothel to help pay for a raise dead for a character that wasn't Kyra. What should we do at this point?
Bygones and all that. Let it lie and just move forward not making the same mistake again.
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I was under the impression the when playing a pregen in a situation like this, the chronicle could not be applied to the player's PC until it reached the minimum level for the chronicle
in this case, it would not be applied to the character until the first opportunity after reaching level 5, and level 5 rewards are what would be applied (after the loot loss paying for the raise is subtracted)
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I was under the impression the when playing a pregen in a situation like this, the chronicle could not be applied to the player's PC until it reached the minimum level for the chronicle
in this case, it would not be applied to the character until the first opportunity after reaching level 5, and level 5 rewards are what would be applied (after the loot loss paying for the raise is subtracted)
One of Patrick's alii applies here: RTFM. ;)
A player who uses a pregenerated character must apply the Chronicle sheet to a newly created 1st-level character or hold the Chronicle sheet until his character reaches the level of the pregenerated character.
So, this discussion seems to revolve around that first option, applying a chronicle sheet from higher level pregen play to a new 1st level PC as their first chronicle.