The Seventh Veil first annivarsary annoucement:


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The Seventh Veil Anniversary Announcement

Over the last year The Seventh Veil has far exceeded our expectations. In doing so, we have evolved above and beyond our original scope. The Seventh Veil has become a meta-organization, that is we are above the ‘Nation’ level. There isn’t a known game mechanic to facilitate our organization so our primary place of convergence is on our forums, and our major benefit for membership is community connections. We want to affiliate with many independent companies and settlements - and even player nations -so that all parties can share a wide-range of opportunities.

The purposes of T7V have mostly remained constant:

Purpose:
1. Create an environment that allows maximum freedom, and dips into as many facets of the game as possible.
2. Gather information about the game/world to create a library of knowledge, both IC and OOC, about the game. (Details on how we share this knowledge with the entire PFO community is still up to discussion.)

We don’t expect all members to collect and submit information; first and foremost we want to create a community that has access to every facet of the game, and this is why we have no alignment restriction. With connections in every corner in the game, we aim to create an excellent environment for gathering knowledge. Our ‘library’ will both accept submissions from members, and have open requests that any member of the organization can pursue. We want to fill our library with as many manuals, and journals as possible. If player made books are in the game, we will take full advantage of that.

T7V is lead by a small group of Stewards, who guide the overall direction of the organization, are responsible for administering material support such as the organization's website, and mediate disputes within the organization.

In recognition of our expanded area of operations, we welcome any organized group of people to declare their affiliation with us.

Affiliate organizations may be any size, and have only a few requirements: They must agree to display certain minimum attributes:

Affiliate attributes:

  • Positive Attitude - Your attitude influences that of everyone else around you; keep it positive and you will find others drawn to you simply because they feel happier when you're around.

  • Integrity - You will be expected to play by the rules; those of Pathfinder Online, and those of The Seventh Veil. When you say that you will do something, we expect you to make every reasonable effort to do it, or to try to let us know that you can't. (Please note that though a character is allowed to act nefariously, players should not.)

  • Self-Reliance - We are committed to helping our members, but that is a gift from the other members, not a right you should demand. If you find yourself unable to get help with something, step back and ask if there's anyone you can help, instead.

  • Willingness to Help - No one will ever expect you to drop everything you're doing whenever someone else asks for help, but we will do everything we can to encourage a general spirit of helpfulness in The Seventh Veil. You can help us set an example everyone should be proud of.

  • There is specifically no alignment restriction nor a general prohibition on direct competition among affiliate organizations. Organizations that mutually agree to be actively hostile to each other are specifically permitted, but it is strongly recommended that the nature and scope of hostilities between those organizations be clearly established and published to prevent disagreements later on.

    How to register your group as an affiliate of T7V:

    Instructions:

    Agree to exemplify the requirements of an affiliate, and to support the overall goal of improving Pathfinder Online for all players.
    Provide one or more points of contact for your organization. PMs sent to a forum account satisfy this requirement, and complimentary email addresses @khaiognos.org can be provided on request. At least one of those POCs must be shared with all other affiliate organizations to facilitate communication between affiliates . A personal email as a primary point of contact is discouraged for this purpose.

    Post your registration in reply here, to the T7V forums, or in private message.

    It is very highly recommended that organizations which are, or intend to be, large companies, settlements, or nations designate one or more people to represent them in an official capacity for the purpose of coordinating with other large groups. T7V will provide the means to make coordination between different groups as easy as possible.

    The Seventh Veil as a whole is committed to exemplify the following attributes:

    T7V attributes:

  • Fun - Pathfinder Online is a game, and should first and foremost be fun for everyone.

  • Freedom - Members are always free to pursue their own interests first, and are encouraged to do so. We are confident we will achieve better success by filling our ranks with free and prosperous individuals.

  • Organization - Whether it's large-scale organized events, or easy access to a list of currently unmet community needs, we will always have something that our members can do if they're interested. This is the primary value that we offer to our members and affiliates.

  • Fully Engaged - We will be fully engaged with every aspect of gameplay in Pathfinder Online. We are not just a Crafting or PvP guild, we are both, and so much more.

  • Roleplayer-Friendly - While no one will ever be required to Roleplay, and we will not tolerate rudeness against anyone for their Roleplaying choices, we will encourage Roleplay and ensure there is a suitable environment for it.

  • Hardcore-Friendly - While no one will ever be required to attend large in-game events such as Raids, if they're available then we'll be doing them.

  • Family Friendly - Not only are family and friends welcome, but we will strive to create a place safe for children, whether they are with us in chat or simply looking over their parent's shoulders. It is understood that even best of us can slip up and say something we'll regret in the heat of the moment, but casual cursing and overtly sexual chat should be kept to private channels.

  • Casual-Friendly - We also welcome casual players who may not be able to dedicate as much time to the game, and are simply looking for a place to call home, and friends to play or even just chat with.

  • As part of the restructuring, The Seventh Veil is pleased to recognize our first affiliate organization: The Cæruxi Khaiognos.
    Cæruxi:

    History:
    The Cæruxi Khaiognos is a loosely bound group dedicated to the collection, preservation, and dissemination of all knowledge. It has roots and splinter groups stretching back beyond even their own records and research; many different groups throughout history have been either descended from or inspired by the Cæruxi and their research, and the clergy of many different deities have shown interest in the goals and methods of the Cæruxi.

    The earliest records of the Cæruxi in the River Kingdoms date back to 4421, when the monk Oemidare Lamios developed the Lamiosian hierarchy, intended to encapsulate all knowledge into seven categories, called Veils, after the aspects of the goddess Sivinah.

    Today, the Lamiosian hierarchy has been recognized as incomplete and often inaccurate in detail. It is still useful as a tool for broad categorizations, but many edge cases must be arbitrarily assigned to a single Veil in which they don't clearly fit. CK now uses it for broad categorizations, but no longer makes any effort to assign every subject to exactly one Veil.


    Details of the Lamiosian hierarchy:
    Lamiosian hierarchy of knowledge:
    The Acts of Creation and Destruction; The Journeys of Exploration and Contemplation; The Metamorphoses of Magic and Nature; and the Mysteries.

    Creation includes the construction of clockwork and other machines, contraptions, architecture, engineering, and in general all physical objects which were created by people. The contrast to Creation, Destruction, includes all manner of warfare and conflict. Creation is also known as the Act of Making, while destruction is also known as the Act of Undoing. Together, they may be called the Acts.

    The Veil of Exploration embodies the knowledge of geography and nature including the location of things on and within the earth; the sources and mouths of rivers; knowledge of caverns, land, and terrain; and the creation of accurate maps. Exploration must be accomplished by travel and direct observation. Contemplation, on the other hand proposes to find truths in searching for the locations of things within themselves, or through remote viewing and research. Contemplation is typically accomplished alone, and the advances are often within one's own mind. Exploration is also known as the Journey outside, while Contemplation is the Journey inside. Together, they are the Journeys.

    The Veil of Magic studies and understands the manner of expression of Magika and how it comes to be expressed in manners which require the will of the user, or the direct consent of a divine being. This includes all knowledge of magic traditions and arcane symbols, as well as knowledge of gods, undead, and planes other than the material plane. This is opposed by the veil of Nature, focusing on the location, habitats, behaviors, and properties of the uncivilized beasts. Those who pursue knowledge through Nature seek to uncover the secrets hidden by all of the elements, and the manner in which clouds form and create other forms of weather, the understanding of the motivations and behaviors of natural fires. The Veil of Magic would also be known as the Metamorphosis From Will whereas Nature is the Metamorphosis From Being. Together, they are the Metamorphoses.

    Finally, the Mysteries are a unique Veil with no counterpart. It includes knowledge of story which in turn would deal with the people, politics, and everything abstract which was created by people, including past events such as wars and the current status of ruling bodies and heraldry. The veil of Mysteries also encompasses everything not covered by another veil, as well as the veils themselves and specifically the history of the Cæruxi themselves.


    Currently the CK is committed to enacting the in-game portions of disseminating knowledge, including at least the development of a settlement which will serve as a headquarters, rallying point, and more for the like-minded. Currently the Cæruxi are accepting applications from individuals only. Interested parties may apply by following the Cæruxi application instructions.

    CK has a very limited metagame presence, while T7V has a very limited non-metagame presence. There is, of necessity, some scope overlap and currently total leadership overlap between T7V and CK.

    Goblin Squad Member

    Happy Birthday T7V!

    Goblin Squad Member

    Frosty take it away for me.

    Goblin Squad Member

    Congratulations on your first anniversary. Your contributions to this forum community are much appreciated.

    Goblin Squad Member

    Congrats!!

    Goblin Squad Member

    PAQ! (Preemptively Answered Questions)

    Below is a short list of answers to questions that would presumably be asked at some point.

    Here You Go!:

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    1.) What's the difference between The Seventh Veil (T7V/TSV) and Caerux Khaiognos (CK)?

    T7V is the name of the meta-organization that acts as an out of game community hub. CK is the in-game organization affiliated with T7V.

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    2.) If I join, then does T7V have a say as to what happens in my organization?

    Not at all. T7V has no authority over the workings of affiliate organizations.

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    3.) Then how do you get anything done?

    Voluntary mailing lists, job boards, word of mouth, etc. T7V doesn't actually do anything itself, its members work together to accomplish personally and mutually beneficial tasks.

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    4.) If T7V has no authority what's to keep anyone from following the rules?

    We would hope that the benefits of working with other friendly organizations is a strong enough motivator, but if an affiliate is a continued problem for the organization as a whole the most that could be done would be removing them from the organization. Essentially, a name is taken off a list.

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    5.) If my group wanted to join, but also wasn't a formal in-game organization, would that be alright?

    Formal in-game organizations are preferred, if only because they are easier to identify by other players, however that should work just fine as long as the rest of the requirements (points of contact especially) are still followed.

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    6.) What would be the benefits of having my organization join your group?

    Being a part of a larger community of people who can become friends, business contacts, or what have you. Disputes within T7V can be mediated through neutral parties, allowing for a smoother diplomatic process. Out-of-game communication can be better facilitated through forums, messaging, and emails that can be provided by T7V.

    The benefits are all about community and communication.

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    7.) Does this mean that you won't be working with other Chartered Companies outside the T7V umbrella?

    Caerux Khaiognos will still be working with all Chartered Companies and other organizations who have the desire to work with us, and affiliates of T7V are not at all required to work only with other T7V affiliates.

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    8.) What happens when an external organization declares war on an affiliate?

    At the moment, there is no formal process for such a situation, as the details for such systems in the game are still in the works. A discussion of this question will certainly be necessary. At the very least, if your organization is in trouble, you'll have a network of groups to request aid from.

    Goblin Squad Member

    One of our members asked some questions about this announcement, and suggested I post my responses here.

    Nihimon wrote:

    First, we want to encourage smaller organizations that don't have any intentions of trying to build and hold their own Settlements to work with us. We offer them the Freedom they generally won't find if they join another large organization.

    Second, we wanted to make very clear that we will accept individuals and organizations that seem to violate the alignment restrictions that GW has laid down for Settlements and Player Nations. A lot of the people on the forums will get caught up in thinking "Oh, they're an NG Settlement and I want to play CN so I can't join them."

    I don't know if there are smaller organizations out there that are active on these forums that don't intend to try to hold territory themselves, but if you're torn feeling like you need to join a larger organization in order to accomplish your goals, but not wanting to risk losing your autonomy, we encourage you to consider affiliating yourself with The Seventh Veil.

    We will both benefit from having more players aware of each of our organized events. We will never require participation, but we're confident that there will be enough players who want to participate and help that this won't be a problem.

    Goblin Squad Member

    Hooray for loose neutral alliances! I am SO here! This will end BADLYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!

    Goblin Squad Member

    avari3 wrote:

    Hooray for loose neutral alliances! I am SO here! This will end BADLYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!

    Uhm, wut?

    Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

    Congrats and happy birthday to the Seventh Veil!

    Goblin Squad Member

    Nihimon wrote:
    avari3 wrote:

    Hooray for loose neutral alliances! I am SO here! This will end BADLYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!

    Uhm, wut?

    We are going to have alot of fun here. This type of organization lends itself to the best type of Roleplay. Alliances within alliances and even friction within the sub groups. The 7th Veil promises to be quite the ride, keep up the good work Nihimon!

    Goblin Squad Member

    Nihimon and The Veil,

    Congratulations on your milestone. Your dedication to helping the community is evident and much appreciated. As someone who looks forward to networking and strengthening the community, I in turn look forward to further interaction with you and yours.

    Hobs

    P.S. Nice job on the Gobbo podcast as well.

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