+1 level of spellcasting class with multiple spellcasting classes (re: Hellknight Signifer)


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Sovereign Court

Caveat: I am using d20PFSRD site for info, so I may be missing some key verbiage.

I was coding the Hellknight Signifer class into a spreadsheet and something devious came to mind. Is it spelled out anywhere explicitly that when a PrC has a table that says "+1 level of spellcasting class" that it only applies to one of your spellcasting classes?

The though sprung from the fact that the PrC is open to both Divine and Arcane casters and gives options for both Arcane and Divine characters. So what if someone was both, rather than either? It seems clear to me that their domains would advance through Catechesis (if you have Warrior Priest) and you'd receive Arcane Armor Mastery (if you had Arcane Armor Training), but what of your spells? Furthermore, what if you had 5 levels of Wizard and 1 of Cleric? You meet the prereq of being able to cast 3rd level spells. What if you were a second level Divine and Arcane caster who took two levels of Mystic Theurge? You'd be a 3rd level caster in both Divine and Arcane spells.

Don't misunderstand me, I doubt this is intended, I just lack the rules quote to prove it is illegal. The only thing that in any way backs this up for RAI is that it is nearly impossible to build a good Arcane caster with this class. Getting Medium Armor Prof is probably enough to scare any Arcane caster away...unless you dipped a level of Cleric.

Paizo Employee Design Manager

RtrnofdMax wrote:

Caveat: I am using d20PFSRD site for info, so I may be missing some key verbiage.

I was coding the Hellknight Signifer class into a spreadsheet and something devious came to mind. Is it spelled out anywhere explicitly that when a PrC has a table that says "+1 level of spellcasting class" that it only applies to one of your spellcasting classes?

Yes, it is. It's noted that you have to pick a class the spell-level increase applies to, see the Eldritch Knight's Spells description for an example of the verbage.

Sovereign Court

Just to continue playing devils advocate: It doesn't appear that the Signifer has a class feature called Spells per day, where it's clarified. Eldritch Knight is also a 3.5 class that was converted. Does anyone who owns Paths of Prestige know if there is the same verbiage as that for the EK?

Paizo Employee Design Manager

RtrnofdMax wrote:
Just to continue playing devils advocate: It doesn't appear that the Signifer has a class feature called Spells per day, where it's clarified. Eldritch Knight is also a 3.5 class that was converted. Does anyone who owns Paths of Prestige know if there is the same verbiage as that for the EK?

I do, it does, it's just the d20pfsrd that has a crappy incomplete entry. Sorry.

Sovereign Court

Alright, fully answered then. Thanks.

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