Halfling Jinx + Sluggish Jinx + Bolster Jinx

[RumpinRufus]

The Halfling Jinx ability gives targets -1 on their saving throws. If you add in Bolster Jinx and Iron Will, they may now have -3 on Will saves, -1 Reflex, -1 Fortitude.

Then Sluggish Jinx read "Your jinx’s penalty on saving throws also applies to the target’s initiative and attack rolls." If used in combo with Bolster Jinx, how much is subtracted from their attack rolls and initiative? -1 or -3?

[cartmanbeck]

RumpinRufus wrote:

The Halfling Jinx ability gives targets -1 on their saving throws. If you add in Bolster Jinx and Iron Will, they may now have -3 on Will saves, -1 Reflex, -1 Fortitude.

Then Sluggish Jinx read "Your jinx’s penalty on saving throws also applies to the target’s initiative and attack rolls." If used in combo with Bolster Jinx, how much is subtracted from their attack rolls and initiative? -1 or -3?

The way it's written, your "normal" penalty on saving throws is -1, and if you happen to have one of those save-boosting feats, you get a bit more added to that penalty. I'd say it would still be -1 for the init and attack rolls. The only way it would go up to -3, I would think, is if you have all three of the mentioned feats, which would super-not-be-worth-your-time.

[RumpinRufus]

That is how I would rule it as well, but it's not clear from the wording. It seems like a clarification is in order, so please hit FAQ on this.

[Deviston]

Bump for thoughts.

[Worldbuilder]

Another bump for thoughts.

[Umbranus]

This has nothing to do with the question but the best use for Halfling jinx is the evil eye hex + malicious eye.

[Worldbuilder]

Ya, that was my thinking on a potential witch build. Mix with sluggish jinx and knock some -5 on saves, and -3 on attacks. Its a pretty steep feat investment, but it would be cool. Just want to know how it works. I assume you'd need to take all three saving throw boosts.

[RtrnofdMax]

I don't think that you can argue that you get full -3 until you can affect all three saves that way.