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So we have had quite a few threads about bad things spawning in your hexes. Goblins bugbears dragons, the list goes on. Has anyone discussed beneficial things spawning? For instance, you run a good aligned hex a pilgrim to one of the gods is inspired to start preaching in a random location that is still fitting to his god. If you keep him safe from nasty things (see above) he may found a shrine that grows into a temple, and so on and so forth.
This would also generate meaningful PVP. I as an "evil" character hate your god and want to burn down the shrine and kill the pilgrim so I and my cohorts attack. Now there could be some sort of defense mechanic ere we have to stay in the area for a while to kill him and desecrate there area when the god players would have time to drive us off to preserve the shrine.
Thoughts?
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Sounds pretty cool, I would suggest having these "positive random encounters" happen in unclaimed hexes or at least happen more often in them, it would encourage competition to get the settlement buff or other kind of bonus. Also I would say that if a good aligned pilgrim gives a good settlement a temple, killing him and using him for "dark rites" would offer a profane temple a boon. Thus increasing the stakes a bit.
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-dwarven mine offering cheap ore/metal (and maybe buying food/drink/fuel?)
-wandering peddlers selling magical trinkets or treasure maps
-varisian caravan with a fortune teller
-a druid watching over this hex
etc etc
as in Kingmaker AP, some random encounters could have benefits of the type "if you start a settlement while the pilgrim is here, you get a free shrine in your settlement"
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I would assume that npc spawning means encounter spawning, and if there isnt like a 1000 different plots and variations I would be dissapointed hehe
It would be cool if the game system could read your character profil and see your ambitions, goals, fun factors etc and spawn encounters feeling appropriate for the individual player or group :)
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It would be cool if the game system could read your character profil and see your ambitions, goals, fun factors etc and spawn encounters feeling appropriate for the individual player or group :)
I believe this will be a game-changing mechanic when it finally happens. Eventually, we'll be able to inform the server of our motivations, and have other Players and NPCs be able to divine this information via scouting or magic, etc. I think it ties into my previous posts about in-game information objects which are required in order to perform certain actions or locate certain in-game settings.
Yes, I realize it's not very clear what I'm talking about. I may try to write up a better post for it, but I don't expect PFO (or any other game, really) to be able to implement it unless they start out with that as the primary foundation for the entire system...
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Yeah I dont see how they could do that short of having you tell a human staff member i did this action because ( insert reason here) which would be far to time consuming for an MMO.
I don't know what the interface will eventually look like, but the entire computer industry is working on better ways for computers to understand what their users are trying to do in order to help them. Over time, there will be better and better solutions for that, which will find their way into these kinds of games.
I see the future of CRPGs (MMO or not) where the player is able to convey a whole host of things to the computer - their mood, their motives, their attitude, their short-term objectives, their long-term goals, and many, many more.
Something I would love to see are non-combat encounters that if handled correctly, lead to the players being able to trade with the NPCs. Wether they are orcs that might trade with evil aligned players, or dryads that might trade with neutral players, it would be cool to be able to buy special items off of these NPCs that can't just be bought on the market.
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Something I would love to see are non-combat encounters that if handled correctly, lead to the players being able to trade with the NPCs. Wether they are orcs that might trade with evil aligned players, or dryads that might trade with neutral players, it would be cool to be able to buy special items off of these NPCs that can't just be bought on the market.
That is a very cool idea!
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I would want a gating mechanism for it. TN alignment in order to talk with a dryad. LG for an extraplanar vendor. LE for a demon. Etc.
Maybe a further gating mechanism like a particularly challenging mission that requires teamplay to complete.
If the access to goods is of sufficient weight make the access temporary and not repeatable.
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I noticed that. It appears it is being replaced by the Renown or reputation axis.
Pity. There was great potential there.
Other hand I should remember my advice to those worried about LG overbalancing: we may not have heard everything there is to know because their design is not yet ready for revelation.
I'm thinking that would it work what a hex has "statistics" to affect the spawns encounters? For example, if the hex has 1000 human bandits, 100 villagers, and only 5 bugbear, you're unlikely to meet villagers assaulted by bugbears in an encounter. It would also make killing spawned npcs meaningful (decrease the number of creatures on the statistics list according to the kill), though I don't think any games have done this before or could even be achieved in this gen.
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It's sounding more and more like the Neutral Alignment Axis is not going to be significant in PFO.
TN probably has the widest ranging selection of skill training as they can viably expect training to be easy to get at TN, NG, NE, CN and LN settlements. This gives access to chaotic, lawful, evil and good skillsets.
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I would like to see a beholder's lair or something like that tooUnfortunately, Beholders are not open game content and Paizo does not own the copyright. So beholders, mind flayers and probably lots of others are not part of the Pathfinder bestiary.
Oh man that is sad :(
By the way, we have a lot of other creepy creatures to butcher, so lets not mind some of them missing! :)
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I'm thinking that would it work what a hex has "statistics" to affect the spawns encounters? For example, if the hex has 1000 human bandits, 100 villagers, and only 5 bugbear, you're unlikely to meet villagers assaulted by bugbears in an encounter. It would also make killing spawned npcs meaningful (decrease the number of creatures on the statistics list according to the kill), though I don't think any games have done this before or could even be achieved in this gen.
I think you are right, that a hex needs to have some stats in its record to return the battle value of the hex for any number of reasons, to include what could spawn, what that might escalate to, and how strongly they will assault if the herd isn't culled soon.