Non human Dhampir


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Can other races beyond humans produce dhampirs? I know that if I want to, I can house rule it, but I was wondering what some other people thought about it. Thoughts, suggestions?


I see it as something possible, despite no mentions of it in "Blood of the Night".

Same goes to the four elemental races, since I doubt humans have a monopoly on breeding.

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I'd say so, along the same lines that you can have tieflings and aasimar(and I'd wager the genie-kin) born from non-human races. So, going strictly by Golarion rules, a vampire half-orc and a living half-orc would result in a half-orc dhampir, a vampire elf and a living human would give birth to a half-elf dhampir, and a vampire elf and a living orc won't have offspring at all.

It's gnome/halfling/other-non-Medium races that'll take the most adjustment. For the most part, replacing one dhampir racial feature with a signature feature of the perent race should be enough if you need mechanical representation rather than just saying "it's a dwarf dhampir" with straight dhampir features.


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I have a hard enough time taking a halfling serious but have gotten used to them, a dhampir halfling, thats a whole new world of NOT... lol


I could see it as well. Would the Stats other than Size & Speed change? No.

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Certain proficiencies might. I mean, the only reason elves, for example, are proficient with longswords, among other things, is their society and culture. Elven magic might be cultural, and naturally, the language is. What parts of the living parent's race would carry over to the child, and how would aging be effected? If a human dhampir ages like an elf, how does an elven dhampir age?


I was saying the Dhampyr Stats wouldn't change. They might get some Alternate Racial Feature options but that is it.

Age I would say make it simple and have them age all the same.


There are rules for having Tieflings of non human ancestry in the Blood of the Damned book...I think the only thing that gets altered is size, if saying come from a halfling or gnome race.

So I would probably run with that.


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MMCJawa wrote:

There are rules for having Tieflings of non human ancestry in the Blood of the Damned book...I think the only thing that gets altered is size, if saying come from a halfling or gnome race.

So I would probably run with that.

Same holds true for non-human aasimar.

On the other hand... who would bite and slurp a halfling ? *grin*

Sczarni

It's not dhampirs, but I had a player who wanted to play a Changeling swapped in for a Gnome baby once. Basically, we went down the gnome and changeling racial trait lists and figured out which ones would be more likely to come from biology, and which ones from culture. She got the gnome culture ones, and mostly the changeling biological ones (though since her father was a gnome, she was still small and had generally gnomish features).


I've always allowed Dhampir to be from any race. The only thing that changes is size. I've noticed no problem. We play them similar to the death knights from WoW.


so, can nymphs, nixies, and other fey produce Dhampirs as well?

what about angels, demons, and other outsiders?


Lumiere Dawnbringer wrote:

so, can nymphs, nixies, and other fey produce Dhampirs as well?

what about angels, demons, and other outsiders?

For my campaign, I only use dhampir for PC. Nixie, nymphs, and any other non-playable races wouldn't be worth figuring out. They just be vampires.

But if there were PC fey races (like a custom elf with fey type), I'd allow dhampir of them. Outsiders, too, if they had the native subtype.


so a nymph couldn't breed with a vampire and create something functionally identical to a dhampir because it isn't a PC Race?

change type from humanoid to fey. problem solved.

succubus breeds with vampire

change type from humanoid to outsider (native) problem solved.

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Sure? Why not? I sort of assume all of the "half-a-thing" races aren't "origin race specific" with the obvious exception of half-elves, half-orcs, and samsarans. Though I question Changelings, which I think require a human male to breed with a hag to produce...shouldn't be too difficult to create a small dhampir...

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Lumiere Dawnbringer wrote:

so a nymph couldn't breed with a vampire and create something functionally identical to a dhampir because it isn't a PC Race?

change type from humanoid to fey. problem solved.

succubus breeds with vampire

Or you'd probably apply the half-fey or half-fiend templates. Half-Fiend Dhampir though several offspring down that line you might be looking at somewhere in-between a Dhampir and a Tiefling, maybe with specific ties to Orcus... or even Charon if they got lead further over... hmmm...


vikingson wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:

There are rules for having Tieflings of non human ancestry in the Blood of the Damned book...I think the only thing that gets altered is size, if saying come from a halfling or gnome race.

So I would probably run with that.

Same holds true for non-human aasimar.

On the other hand... who would bite and slurp a halfling ? *grin*

A vampire halfling.


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a fey vampire named bunnicula


MMCJawa wrote:

There are rules for having Tieflings of non human ancestry in the Blood of the Damned book...I think the only thing that gets altered is size, if saying come from a halfling or gnome race.

So I would probably run with that.

This. The mechanics would be the same. All the things like Darkvision AND Lowlight or +2 vs mind affecting and such can be presumed to come from your dwarven or elf parent... and then there are the traits and feats and other customized things... but base stats for non-human dhampirs would pretty much still use the dhampir stats or one of their variant heritages.

Honestly I wouldn't even change the size and speed... if you're a gnome or halfling Dhampir then you take after you're vampire parent and hit that 3-4' mark and be on the short side of Dhampir/Human/Medium scale.


I was considering a drow dhampir for starfinder. What does anyone think of that?

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