Eyes of the 10 part 1 and a chelaxian paladin ***Spoilers***


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Shadow Lodge

so .. Im prepping this for next week ... and I ran into something

the group I'll be Prepping this for contains a paladin of Iomondae - Cheliax Faction

at one point ...

spoiler:
the Chelaxian is to read a manuscript that summons an Ice devil

now due to RP this character has remained ignorant as possible (even including excuses as to mispronouncing Asmodeous's name)--(dont ask)

my question ... this event ... beyond the RP aspects of it ... should I require him to take an atonement spell if he chooses to go through with this ? reading the faction mission its not obvious (but its highly hinted at) whats going to happen

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Well, the paladin could always refuse what his chelaxian handlers are asking him to do.

As you pointed out there is the Atonement route.

There now exists an out for player characters.

Alignment Infractions
Characters who commit potentially evil acts (casting spells with the Evil descriptor, killing or maiming someone, etc.) while following specific orders from their faction or the Pathfinder Society, do not suffer alignment infractions. These are cases where karma applies to those making the orders, not their tools. However, “that’s just what my character would do” is not a defense for behaving like a jerk.

Page 36 Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play

I hope this helps

Shadow Lodge

thanks for that :-) I much appreciate ... I missed that one totaly ..

The Exchange RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Once he summons it, is there anything to keep him from promptly destroying it?

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Myles Crocker wrote:

Well, the paladin could always refuse what his chelaxian handlers are asking him to do.

As you pointed out there is the Atonement route.

There now exists an out for player characters.

Alignment Infractions
Characters who commit potentially evil acts (casting spells with the Evil descriptor, killing or maiming someone, etc.) while following specific orders from their faction or the Pathfinder Society, do not suffer alignment infractions. These are cases where karma applies to those making the orders, not their tools. However, “that’s just what my character would do” is not a defense for behaving like a jerk.

Page 36 Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play

Also note that while alingment infractions during faction missions are ignored, class code infractions are not. If he chooses to break the paladin code to complete a faction mission, he will need to get an atonement for the action.

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There are certain scenarios where you pray that a specific faction is is represented in the group. A Chelaxian Paladin is delicious for this. I'd frankly not force an atonement. He may be squeamish ahead of time, but in the moment it accomplishes good (freeing bound souls) and works toward establishing law. He just doesn't want it to get too out of hand.

When we played, we discussed whether or not my Andoran Oracle of Cayden Cailean or our Chelaxian Sorceress should address the crowd. We went with the sorceress. Her speech opened with, "Peasants of Galt, Cheliax has deigned to bless you..." Then the scroll was read. My oracle kept saying, "That's not at all what I would have said!"

Silver Crusade

When my group played it, we also had a paladin from Cheliax. She plays her PC as extra stupid (seriously dumped int and wis, role played to the hilt), so she gets away with the ignorance excuse. Of course, she was also a paladin of Aroden, which is no longer possible with the latest version of the Guide to Organized Play.

Grand Lodge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Great Lakes aka TwilightKnight

I assume that this is strictly a faction mission so it will not "break the mod" if he chooses not to read the manuscript at all. I know my paladin would not read something like that if he even suspected it would summon a demon/devil let alone if he knew it for a fact. But he's not Cheliax so I guess it wouldn't apply anyway.

Shadow Lodge

ok ... so after lots of thought I know how I'm gonna handle this .... thank you for the feedback

Dark Archive 4/5

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Will Johnson wrote:

There are certain scenarios where you pray that a specific faction is is represented in the group. A Chelaxian Paladin is delicious for this. I'd frankly not force an atonement. He may be squeamish ahead of time, but in the moment it accomplishes good (freeing bound souls) and works toward establishing law. He just doesn't want it to get too out of hand.

When we played, we discussed whether or not my Andoran Oracle of Cayden Cailean or our Chelaxian Sorceress should address the crowd. We went with the sorceress. Her speech opened with, "Peasants of Galt, Cheliax has deigned to bless you..." Then the scroll was read. My oracle kept saying, "That's not at all what I would have said!"

It sounded better than "Rabble of Galt..."

Dark Archive 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Midwest

The problem is the Ice Devil becomes the mission giver for the rest of the series of Scenarios. If you do not summon it or kill it immediately after, then how will this person get faction missions in future scenarios?


Todd Morgan wrote:
The problem is the Ice Devil becomes the mission giver for the rest of the series of Scenarios. If you do not summon it or kill it immediately after, then how will this person get faction missions in future scenarios?

They don't? :)

5/5 Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

The Ice Devil shows up in part 2/3, even if the faction mission is not completed in part 1. I'm sure there are plenty of other ways for it to show up off screen.

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Um... if you're a Chelaxian paladin, you should be quite used to this situation by 12th level. You probably either have no prestige, or a "Frequent Atoner" card down at the local temple.

Given that the mission a) summons an evil fiend from the lower planes, which then b) releases a bunch of evil undead that c) start killing peasants at random, I'm pretty sure you will need to atone for that, or at least fight it immediately (since you could argue you didn't know what you were doing by reading the scroll).

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