paizo.com Recent Posts in Nauseated condition, how to remove it?paizo.com Recent Posts in Nauseated condition, how to remove it?2013-01-04T19:28:52Z2013-01-04T19:28:52ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Cavallhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#172018-09-06T07:03:08Z2018-09-06T07:03:08Z<p>Best way is quicken channel and variant channel of cayden. Grats on s 5 year rez. Theres your solution.</p>Best way is quicken channel and variant channel of cayden. Grats on s 5 year rez. Theres your solution.Cavall2018-09-06T07:03:08ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Emageht (alias of Ryan McLeod)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#162018-09-06T02:09:45Z2018-09-06T02:09:45Z<p>I am going to guess that they are not going to address this. The last post was in 2013. Pathfinder 2 is going thru testing. Oh well guess we just have to RAI(common sense) when people use swift actions that specifically remove nauseated. Cleanse, Mesmerist touch treatment on themselves, the Inquisitor Pestilence, etc things mentioned above. Lets hope that PF2 is better written than this.</p>I am going to guess that they are not going to address this. The last post was in 2013. Pathfinder 2 is going thru testing. Oh well guess we just have to RAI(common sense) when people use swift actions that specifically remove nauseated. Cleanse, Mesmerist touch treatment on themselves, the Inquisitor Pestilence, etc things mentioned above. Lets hope that PF2 is better written than this.Emageht (alias of Ryan McLeod)2018-09-06T02:09:45ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Kazaanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#152013-08-12T12:15:19Z2013-08-12T12:15:19Z<p>So you can't even talk while nauseated? Talking takes a Free Action so if the nauseated condition prohibits everything but Move actions, that includes prohibition on Free Actions; you can't drop your weapon, talk, drop prone, or even cease concentration on a spell; you're forced to keep concentrating on a spell if you're rendered nauseous in the course of casting so you can't complete the casting to "fire" the spell, but you must continue maintaining concentration for as many turns as you have the Nauseous condition, otherwise you lose the spell. I think it's more reasonable to say that, by default, when a condition limits your selection of move/standard actions, it is <b>only</b> referring to those and the clause from Staggered is merely a reminder that being limited in terms of move/standard/full actions has no effect on your ability to perform free, swift, or immediate actions. Of course, this means that an action that normally requires a standard but is reduced to swift, immediate, or free due to some special ability can still be performed while nauseated, but that's easy to houserule. Something along the lines of, "If the action normally requires a standard or full-round action to perform, it cannot be done while nauseated even if a special ability lets you perform it as some other allowable action type.</p>So you can't even talk while nauseated? Talking takes a Free Action so if the nauseated condition prohibits everything but Move actions, that includes prohibition on Free Actions; you can't drop your weapon, talk, drop prone, or even cease concentration on a spell; you're forced to keep concentrating on a spell if you're rendered nauseous in the course of casting so you can't complete the casting to "fire" the spell, but you must continue maintaining concentration for as many turns as you...Kazaan2013-08-12T12:15:19ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Raith Shadar (alias of Maddigan)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#142013-08-12T09:56:58Z2013-08-12T09:56:58Z<p>By the rules you cannot remove nauseated from yourself since it prevents all actions except a move action. </p>
<p>I have made a house rule that any class with an ability that can remove nauseated with an action on themselves only (personal only spells like <i>cleanse</i>) can do so solely for that purpose. It was a real oversight to give the Samurai the ability to remove the nauseated condition with Resolve, yet make it a standard action. They may as well not even as have put remove the nauseated condition for the Samurai. They may as well have not put <i>cleanse</i> as capable of removing the nauseated condition.</p>
<p>It seems like it was a waste of a word in the rule text because the writer didn't go "Hey. They can't actually remove that condition because they can't take the necessary action to do so."</p>By the rules you cannot remove nauseated from yourself since it prevents all actions except a move action.
I have made a house rule that any class with an ability that can remove nauseated with an action on themselves only (personal only spells like cleanse) can do so solely for that purpose. It was a real oversight to give the Samurai the ability to remove the nauseated condition with Resolve, yet make it a standard action. They may as well not even as have put remove the nauseated...Raith Shadar (alias of Maddigan)2013-08-12T09:56:58ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Shadowdwellerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#132013-08-12T08:18:02Z2013-08-12T08:18:02Z<p>Even if one DID have a swift action to spend while nauseated, it wouldn't matter. In addition to limiting one to a move action, the condition explicitly states that "Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything else requiring attention."</p>Even if one DID have a swift action to spend while nauseated, it wouldn't matter. In addition to limiting one to a move action, the condition explicitly states that "Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything else requiring attention."Shadowdweller2013-08-12T08:18:02ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Isil-zhahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#122013-08-12T08:02:47Z2013-08-12T08:02:47Z<p>If you manage to suppress but not end the condition for at least one round you could then cast <i>cleanse</i>.</p>If you manage to suppress but not end the condition for at least one round you could then cast cleanse.Isil-zha2013-08-12T08:02:47ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Matthew Downiehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#112013-08-12T07:01:59Z2013-08-12T07:01:59Z<p>Hard to say. There's also the spell 'Cleanse' which cures the caster of nausea, if you can somehow find a way to cast a level 5 spell when you've only got a move action available.
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Anyone want to collect examples and start a new FAQ request thread?</p>Hard to say. There's also the spell 'Cleanse' which cures the caster of nausea, if you can somehow find a way to cast a level 5 spell when you've only got a move action available.
Anyone want to collect examples and start a new FAQ request thread?Matthew Downie2013-08-12T07:01:59ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?AoENIAChttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#102013-08-12T05:37:09Z2013-08-12T05:37:09Z<p>Apologies for this act of necromancy, but if the persistence inquisitioner is not intended to remove nauseated from itself due to being unable to substitute a swift for a move, then WHY is nauseated specifically listed in what it can remove from itself using inner strength in the first place? Why would it be able to cure itself of nauseated using a skill that nauseated would not allow it to use?</p>Apologies for this act of necromancy, but if the persistence inquisitioner is not intended to remove nauseated from itself due to being unable to substitute a swift for a move, then WHY is nauseated specifically listed in what it can remove from itself using inner strength in the first place? Why would it be able to cure itself of nauseated using a skill that nauseated would not allow it to use?AoENIAC2013-08-12T05:37:09ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Oladonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#92013-01-04T21:25:55Z2013-01-04T21:25:55Z<p>Nods, there's evidence that can be used for either ruling.</p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>Nods, there's evidence that can be used for either ruling.
[Spoiler omitted]Oladon2013-01-04T21:25:55ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Seriphim84https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#82013-01-04T21:23:35Z2013-01-04T21:23:35Z<p>well assuming you can get a swift action, there is the sipping vest. You put a potion in it and can activated as a swift action. get a potion of remove sickness and wala!</p>well assuming you can get a swift action, there is the sipping vest. You put a potion in it and can activated as a swift action. get a potion of remove sickness and wala!Seriphim842013-01-04T21:23:35ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Matthew Downiehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#72013-01-04T21:21:01Z2013-01-04T21:21:01Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Oladon wrote:</div><blockquote> There are varying rulings on this, due to the specific wording of the "Action Types" in the PRD. </blockquote><p>Based on the description of Nauseated on p568 'The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn' (compared to Staggered which says 'A staggered creature can still take free, swift, and immediate actions') I think my interpretation is justified, but hey, GM's call and all that.Oladon wrote:There are varying rulings on this, due to the specific wording of the "Action Types" in the PRD.
Based on the description of Nauseated on p568 'The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn' (compared to Staggered which says 'A staggered creature can still take free, swift, and immediate actions') I think my interpretation is justified, but hey, GM's call and all that.Matthew Downie2013-01-04T21:21:01ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Oladonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#62013-01-04T21:14:07Z2013-01-04T21:14:07Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Matthew Downie wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Oladon wrote:</div><blockquote><p> A Paladin can remove the condition with a Lay on Hands (swift action) at 9th level.</p>
<p>If you're an Inquisitor with the Persistence inquisition, you can remove it from yourself as a swift action.
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</blockquote>You don't even get a swift action when nauseated; just a move action. </blockquote><p>There are varying rulings on this, due to the specific wording of the "Action Types" in the PRD.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">PRD: Combat wrote:</div><blockquote>In a normal round, you can perform a standard action and a move action, or you can perform a full-round action. You can also perform one swift action and one or more free actions.</blockquote><p>The argument is that the two sets of actions are specifically separated, and thus being limited to just a move (or standard) action doesn't affect your ability to take one swift action and one or more free actions.Matthew Downie wrote:Oladon wrote:A Paladin can remove the condition with a Lay on Hands (swift action) at 9th level.
If you're an Inquisitor with the Persistence inquisition, you can remove it from yourself as a swift action.
You don't even get a swift action when nauseated; just a move action. There are varying rulings on this, due to the specific wording of the "Action Types" in the PRD. PRD: Combat wrote:In a normal round, you can perform a standard action and a move action, or you can...Oladon2013-01-04T21:14:07ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Matthew Downiehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#52013-01-04T21:08:58Z2013-01-04T21:08:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Oladon wrote:</div><blockquote><p> A Paladin can remove the condition with a Lay on Hands (swift action) at 9th level.</p>
<p>If you're an Inquisitor with the Persistence inquisition, you can remove it from yourself as a swift action.
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</blockquote><p>You don't even get a swift action when nauseated; just a move action.Oladon wrote:A Paladin can remove the condition with a Lay on Hands (swift action) at 9th level.
If you're an Inquisitor with the Persistence inquisition, you can remove it from yourself as a swift action.
You don't even get a swift action when nauseated; just a move action.Matthew Downie2013-01-04T21:08:58ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Oladonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#42013-01-04T20:33:14Z2013-01-04T20:33:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Seriphim84 wrote:</div><blockquote><p>there is a second level spell called soothing words that Druids, clerics, witches, rangers and Paladins get. A wand of that would be useful. or there is remove sickness with temporarily suppresses the effects. its a level 1 druid, cleric witch spell.</p>
<p>otherwise you have to wait for it to go away. Nauseated is a powerful debuff.</blockquote><p>You can't use either of those on yourself while nauseated, though.Seriphim84 wrote:there is a second level spell called soothing words that Druids, clerics, witches, rangers and Paladins get. A wand of that would be useful. or there is remove sickness with temporarily suppresses the effects. its a level 1 druid, cleric witch spell.
otherwise you have to wait for it to go away. Nauseated is a powerful debuff.
You can't use either of those on yourself while nauseated, though.Oladon2013-01-04T20:33:14ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Seriphim84https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#32013-01-04T20:09:51Z2013-01-04T20:09:51Z<p>there is a second level spell called soothing words that Druids, clerics, witches, rangers and Paladins get. A wand of that would be useful. or there is remove sickness with temporarily suppresses the effects. its a level 1 druid, cleric witch spell.</p>
<p>otherwise you have to wait for it to go away. Nauseated is a powerful debuff.</p>there is a second level spell called soothing words that Druids, clerics, witches, rangers and Paladins get. A wand of that would be useful. or there is remove sickness with temporarily suppresses the effects. its a level 1 druid, cleric witch spell.
otherwise you have to wait for it to go away. Nauseated is a powerful debuff.Seriphim842013-01-04T20:09:51ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Oladonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#22013-01-04T20:04:38Z2013-01-04T20:04:38Z<p>The Accelerated Drinker feat in conjunction with a potion of <i>remove sickness</i> would do it (though it'd take two rounds).</p>
<p>A Paladin can remove the condition with a Lay on Hands (swift action) at 9th level.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/h-l/hourglass-of-last-chances" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Hourglass of Last Chances</a> looks like you could use it, though activating it may be a standard action, in which case someone else would have to use it on you.</p>
<p>If you're an Inquisitor with the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/inquisitor/archetypes/paizo—-inquisitor-archetypes/inquisitions/persistence-inquisition" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Persistence</a> inquisition, you can remove it from yourself as a swift action.</p>
<p>On others:
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<ul><li>Variant Channeling (Ale/Wine) can do it
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<li>Pestilence bloodline sorcerers are immune to it
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<li>Psionics can remove it
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<li>the <i>heal</i> spell removes it
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<li>a barbarian with the Internal Fortitude ability is immune to it
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<li>the Hourglass of Last Chances (see above)
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<li>the Merciful Healer cleric archetype can remove it at level 3+
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<li><i>surmount affliction</i>
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<p>Think that's about it. :)</p>The Accelerated Drinker feat in conjunction with a potion of remove sickness would do it (though it'd take two rounds).
A Paladin can remove the condition with a Lay on Hands (swift action) at 9th level.
The Hourglass of Last Chances looks like you could use it, though activating it may be a standard action, in which case someone else would have to use it on you.
If you're an Inquisitor with the Persistence inquisition, you can remove it from yourself as a swift action.
On others:
Variant...Oladon2013-01-04T20:04:38ZForums: Rules Questions: Nauseated condition, how to remove it?Some Random Player (alias of Sheriff Bart)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pc0h?Nauseated-condition-how-to-remove-it#12013-01-04T19:28:52Z2013-01-04T19:28:52Z<p>How does one remove the nauseated condition on oneself?</p>
<p>I am away from books but I remember a personal only spell that removed any condition, but being nauseated would preclude casting.</p>
<p>Is there a way to remove this condition without help or waiting it out?</p>How does one remove the nauseated condition on oneself?
I am away from books but I remember a personal only spell that removed any condition, but being nauseated would preclude casting.
Is there a way to remove this condition without help or waiting it out?Some Random Player (alias of Sheriff Bart)2013-01-04T19:28:52Z