Is there a guide to armor class?


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Aelryinth wrote:
Christopher Rowe wrote:

So, Aelryinth, reading through your tables and so on, I notice that you make use of mithral studded leather. I wouldn't have thought there was such a thing, personally. Has there been a ruling on that?

Ultimate Equipment wrote:
Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral.
mithral studded leather is there if you choose to make use of it. What IS studded leather, if not a lot of metal hanging on a leather coat that can be thinner then normal leather because the metal is handling defense?

It specifically says that items not primarily made of metal (leather is certainly not primarily made of metal, studded as it may be) so it would be a homebrewed item. It's almost word-for-word stated that it wouldn't change anything, normally.


You could also sink your level 7 feat into combat panache. You make an intimidate check against the opponent. If you suceed, you add your charisma mod to your AC till the end of the encounter. In this case it would be +3. The intimidate check is also made as a move action so you could intimidate and swing in the same round. For!!!!!!


I have to say that you will run into fame problems before you run out of money if you save it up. If you play up on getting to two, you can afford a mithral bp way before you have the fame. At higher levels its irrelevant, so go with the ring and amulet and just enhance them.... I would not buy new armor or enhance it until you are buying the last piece you intend to wear. Everything else has been said by other posters


Equalizer- you could also use Osyluth guile and just choose a opponent. the downside BAB+8


Nimble deflections is another feat perfect for two handers. Grants additional +2 AC versus your dodge target.


The equalizer wrote:
Nimble deflections is another feat perfect for two handers. Grants additional +2 AC versus your dodge target.

What feat is that?

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You good people have given me a lot to think about so far, thanks so much. Keep it coming! ;)

As for this mithral studded leather question--I don't think it's legal personally, and since this is a PFS character especially I need to be conservative about my rules interpretations. To be honest, I wouldn't even allow it in a home game.

Combat Panache sounds great, Equalizer!

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Christopher Rowe wrote:
Combat Panache sounds great, Equalizer!

But now that I've gone to look for it I can't find a feat by that name. Source?

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thecarrotman wrote:

I have to say that you will run into fame problems before you run out of money if you save it up. If you play up on getting to two, you can afford a mithral bp way before you have the fame. At higher levels its irrelevant, so go with the ring and amulet and just enhance them.... I would not buy new armor or enhance it until you are buying the last piece you intend to wear. Everything else has been said by other posters

Non-magical items are "always available", so anyone with enough money can buy mithral breastplate, regardless of fame.

For those talking about mithral studded leather, what's the point of that? Masterwork studded leather already has no AC check penalty, so why bother with mithral, even if it is legal?

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Fromper wrote:
For those talking about mithral studded leather, what's the point of that? Masterwork studded leather already has no AC check penalty, so why bother with mithral, even if it is legal?

Good point. I guess the weight savings, maybe?

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no, because if you accept it's mithral, it's got a really, really high dex limit (better then leather). Which is why it's on there.

Naturally enough, if you don't have a 22 Dex, you don't need it. Just like if you don't have an 18 Dex, a Mithral BP is useless to you, except for the movement bonuses.

==Aelryinth

Silver Crusade

Oh!!! I missed that mithral raises the allowable dex bonus! That's HUGE for my dex based rogue-ish PC. Hmm... now to reconsider my armor for that character.

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the very best armor for a Dex bonus is Celestial Armor, which basically sits at +8 and dares you to say it is unbalanced.

And then you can make it Mithral, on top of that. Also not in the list, because not all DM's will allow it.

==Aelryinth


Seranov wrote:
It specifically says that items not primarily made of metal (leather is certainly not primarily made of metal, studded as it may be) so it would be a homebrewed item. It's almost word-for-word stated that it wouldn't change anything, normally.

I constantly wonder why so many people forget that Darkleaf Cloth exists.

It was released in the Advanced Race Guide, so it's PFS legal, and does mechanically everything for leather/wood/natural armor that Mithral does for metal armor (except drop Arcane Spell Failure Chance past 5%, but since you're a Ranger, that doesn't matter), but it's also much cheaper.

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I'll add Darkleaf Cloth studded leather instead of Mithral as an option to my source document. It would be funny indeed if you could get both benefits...

==Aelryinth

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Combat Panache and Nimble Deflection are 3.5 splatbook feats. Note Nimble Deflection referencing "target of your Dodge feat", which doesn't exist in PF.

==Aelryinth

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