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YAY! DINOSAURS!!!
I would LOVE to do a book called "Dinosaurs Revisited" or "Prehistoric Creatures Revisited."
And having lots of customers asking for a book like this will only help me convince the powers that be that such an unusual topic for a fantasy RPG book is worth doing! :-)
Do it!
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Do want!
My next society character will be a saurian shaman, just because dinos are awesome.
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More dinos please. Preferably within the next year so that I have them available before I restart Savage Tide >=D
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I for one welcome our scaly lizard... things I run away from.
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It'd be pretty cool. Just need a Numeria book and we'll get this.
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I admit Dinosaurs are not that exciting of an idea for me. In part because dinosaurs are really just (extinct) animals, and there are no shortage of books adequately covering them. That, and as a paleontologist, I would probably just get aggravated everytime something was illustrated wrong, etc.
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I'm way into dinosaurs. I'd love to see a Dinosaurs of Golarion book, giving us a sense of where they tend to show up in Golarion, what roles they fill, and so forth.
As an astronomer, I'm able to cope with astrological references in Pathfinder, even though it always twinges me a bit and grates... so I think MMCJawa might be able to cope with fantasy-versions of dinosaurs being made available for the rest of us :)
I think it is a great idea...one I suggested awhile ago on these very boards.
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True...I just find real-life prehistoric critters to be entirely more awesome than their depictions in the media
If I was rich I would make sure any artist who depicts future Paizo dinosaurs got a copy of:
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I admit Dinosaurs are not that exciting of an idea for me. In part because dinosaurs are really just (extinct) animals, and there are no shortage of books adequately covering them. That, and as a paleontologist, I would probably just get aggravated every time something was illustrated wrong, etc.
I share your pain. As an amateur paleontologist I look at some of the illustrations of extinct creatures and my reactions range from cringing to rage. How hard is it to find an illustration by another artist to go by? It's NOT.
Count me as another person in favor of a Dinosaurs and/or Prehistoric Creatures of Golarion book.
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+1 for dinosaurs!
And +1 for a separate book on dire animals/mega-fauna.
I think that dinosaurs alone would fill a book, and that creatures like the smilodon/sabre-toothed tiger, megalodon (sp?), etc., need their own book.
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+1 for dinosaurs for me too!
When I was a boy I loved dinosaurs and I still like them. I used to try to draw picture books with dinosaurs in them.
I thought it was cool that the first edition of That Other Game had lots of dinosaurs in the Monster Manual.
I second what the poster above me wrote. I would like a book of mega-fauna, too.
-Dover
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Where mega-fauna is concerned (and other non-dinosaurian creatures, as well) I would hope and pray that some of the less well known creatures would be included. Mammoths, mastodons, megalodons, all those have been done to death. The fossil record has so many interesting creatures to offer a player as both friend and foe.
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Well, my suggestion for a mega-fauna book was mainly because of crass ulterior motives. But if mega-fauna get their own book, then there's room for both the "classics" and the more esoteric beasties. :)
I really want to create a character some time who rides a smilodon/dire tiger ("Mammoth" Rider prestige class for the win, particularly if one has read the Gandalara Cycle).
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I would like Prehistoric Animals Revisited.
I'd like a greater emphasis on their role in campaigns and on Golarion, though. There are better places to learn about their ecology than RPG supplements. Ahistorical and supernatural variants would also be nice, like a tribe of evolved Deinonychi oder an awakened tyrannosaurus.
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You know what would also be pretty sweet? Aside from covering some basic dinos and how they'd fit into Golarion campaigns, I'd love LOVE to see some speculative dinos as well.
Like sure you can have a templated dino, but what about having say a dino that has evolved displacement or blinking? Some thing like that would be an awesome addition to the game.
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OP, you're going to find a lot to be happy about in Mystery Monsters Revisited. Mokele-mbembe and water orms are going to be right up your alley. :)
Displaceraptor would be terrifying.
Especially since they could figure out how to open dimension doors!
Speaking of other magical dinosaurs...pachycephalosaurs with explosive headbutts?
Gotta say, a Prehistoric Creatures Revisited book would be pretty awesome! I'd love to learn more about where dinosaurs dwell in Golarion, and what role they play there.
I'd love to see a book on such matters as well as variant dinosaurs and a template or two to represent mutations either magical or scientific. Anything in aquatic nature is up my alley, I love aquatic dinosaurs and other critters.
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OP, you're going to find a lot to be happy about in Mystery Monsters Revisited. Mokele-mbembe and water orms are going to be right up your alley. :)
Displaceraptor would be terrifying.Especially since they could figure out how to open dimension doors!
Speaking of other magical dinosaurs...pachycephalosaurs with explosive headbutts?
I am going to stat these things.
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As long as it gets into the queue after the Lovecraftian Nightmares Revisited, I'm all for it, but the tentacled terrors from beyond need more dedicated coverage first.
...crossover senses tingling...
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Displaceraptor would be terrifying.
I have, like, zero interest in a 'Dinosaurs of Golarion' book, because they are just dinosaurs. It would be like 'big cats of Golarion,' a book of normal-ish critters.
But a book of magical beast variations of dinosaurs, like displaceraptors and spike-flinging stegacores and tyrannosaurus conflagratus horriblis (the fire-breathing T-rex)?
Oh yes.
Also, those terrors of the underdark, and Paizo interns, cave raptors.
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Oh man Set that actually sounds really sweet!
And I LOVE the idea of headbut exploding pachycephalosaurs. Damn some of these are just making me want to think of nifty things to do here.
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+1 Dinosaurs
+1 Megafauna
I am game either way.
Displaceraptor would be terrifying.I have, like, zero interest in a 'Dinosaurs of Golarion' book, because they are just dinosaurs. It would be like 'big cats of Golarion,' a book of normal-ish critters.
But a book of magical beast variations of dinosaurs, like displaceraptors and spike-flinging stegacores and tyrannosaurus conflagratus horriblis (the fire-breathing T-rex)?
Oh yes.
Also, those terrors of the underdark, and Paizo interns, cave raptors.
Oh man Set that actually sounds really sweet!
And I LOVE the idea of headbut exploding pachycephalosaurs. Damn some of these are just making me want to think of nifty things to do here.
Keep 'em coming. I'm making a list.
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Displaceraptor would be terrifying.I have, like, zero interest in a 'Dinosaurs of Golarion' book, because they are just dinosaurs. It would be like 'big cats of Golarion,' a book of normal-ish critters.
But a book of magical beast variations of dinosaurs, like displaceraptors and spike-flinging stegacores and tyrannosaurus conflagratus horriblis (the fire-breathing T-rex)?
Oh yes.
Also, those terrors of the underdark, and Paizo interns, cave raptors.
Gotta agree with this. Dinosaurs are cool, but I would much prefer something special about them. Big Cats of Golarion doesn't really excite me. But augmented dinosaurs? Or perhaps even better, Augmented Prehistorics of Golarion? That'd be cool.
A random idea just popped into my head. Since earth is in the same universe, maybe some of the prehistorics that we're now missing showed up in Golarion. I know the Shadowsfall campaign setting has something similar, where things that are forgotten on the material plane appear in the plane of shadows. Something like that but for the prehistoric creatures...the megafauna, the giant mosquitos, the dinosaurs, etc...That could be interesting.
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I'm pretty sure it's well known by now that I, too, love me some prehistoric megafauna (and other fauna) and dinosaurs.
I don't want to completely spam this thread, but there is free playtesting material for The Nymian Beastlands Campaign Setting, which is available here on Paizo's store for download. link Our planned setting material will cover it extensively.
I also get really happy when I see how many people favorited the post about the dinosaurs with laser weapon gear. lol - I have considered that setting idea many many many times. It's actually not too difficult of a homebrew to conceptualize, with wands of scorching ray, and advanced technology based on other magical effects. They cover this and talk about it in the Inner Sea Bestiary (robots general description), which I just got for holiday. :D Love it!
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A LONG time ago (in a galaxy far away :P) there was a small company called FGU that created a sourcebook for their Chivalry & Sorcery RPG rules called Saurians, which kinda combined the idea of a 'dinosaurs' splat with WotC's own Serpent Kingdoms take. In other words, it wasn't just a dinosaur bestiary, but rather a whole source for dino-cultures and related (intelligent) creatures (go Sleestak!) I think that might be an even better way to go for a book like this.
That way, folks can do everything from a lost 'Dinotopia' thing to a Jurassic park (smart raptors) adventure.
Fantasy dinosaurs does have some very real appeal, now that it has come up. Quite possibly even more than just regular dinos.
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The "West of Eden" series by Harry Harrison is set in a world where the no extinction event occurred and intelligent dinosaurs became the dominant race on the planet. Men evolved, too, but they're stone age level and seen as food or slaves.
The ruling dinosaurian race (the name of which escapes me)have mastered the science of bio-manipulation and have engineered living dinosaurs to serve various functions such as mass transit and as war machines. You can get an entire Kindle collection of his works for $1.99 at Amazon. These might serve as inspiration for some homebrew augmented dinosaurs.
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I'd be all over a Dinosaurs of Golarion or similar book, and magical variations would just add to the fun. Especially intelligent versions.
And maybe were-raptors. Or a were-tyrannosaurus overlord of a small tropical island nation.
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Wereraptors, displacersoraus Rex, Blinkteratops, magic eating anklyosaurs, the eerie cave raptor of darkness, I can think of all sorts of things in this vein.
And I'd love to see some megafauna that's not dire critters (like say glyptodons (which is my favorite megafauna. I even have a stuffed one)).
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What, no shocker allosaurs?
And I'd love to see some megafauna that's not dire critters (like say glyptodons (which is my favorite megafauna. I even have a stuffed one)).
Glyptodons are dire armadillos.
Wereraptors, displacersoraus Rex, Blinkteratops, magic eating anklyosaurs, the eerie cave raptor of darkness, I can think of all sorts of things in this vein.
Keep 'em coming then! Gonna sit down this weekend and stat out a few =)
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What about fire-breathing Spinosaurus?
Oh.. wait... thats Godzilla. :P
Then again, if we were to get a 'Sauroids' book, it would be fun to get some Kaiju (giant monster) love along with it.
How about a psionic megalodon? Why can't Aboleths have 'cave men' too? Some of those dinosaurs with the domed-heads would also be good candidates for ones with some sort of psionic abilities (even if just fairly primitive).
Giving a pteradon a spiked or poisonous tail is a no-brainer.
This Page has some great reference material.
I'll post some ideas on my monday, and hopefully some stats for some as well. I've had a few ideas and way back in ye olde 2nd edition days when Dragonbait was around, I stated up parts of his dimension for my players to visit.
What about fire-breathing Spinosaurus?
Oh.. wait... thats Godzilla. :P
Then again, if we were to get a 'Sauroids' book, it would be fun to get some Kaiju (giant monster) love along with it.
How about a psionic megalodon? Why can't Aboleths have 'cave men' too? Some of those dinosaurs with the domed-heads would also be good candidates for ones with some sort of psionic abilities (even if just fairly primitive).
Giving a pteradon a spiked or poisonous tail is a no-brainer.
This Page has some great reference material.
The domed headed dinosaurs had the typically small brain found in most dinosaur species. Those domes could be up to 9 inches thick, protecting a brain that was about the size of a housecat's.
The poster you linked to; who is the artist? I wasn't able to make it out even after enlarging the image.
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Here it is guys. Feedback welcome!
The domed headed dinosaurs had the typically small brain found in most dinosaur species. Those domes could be up to 9 inches thick, protecting a brain that was about the size of a housecat's.
The poster you linked to; who is the artist? I wasn't able to make it out even after enlarging the image.
I couldn't find the artist - I found that page by accident when I googled 'weird dinosaurs'. I found the same pic on other sites (its a poster), and the only artistic credit I could locate was 'National Geographic Society' (so there may have been several different artists). There was an issue of National Geographic magazine themed 'Bizarre dinosaurs', and it may have originated there. I found an individual dino pic done by someone named Heather 'Kyoht' Baeder which may or not be related (and I couldn't find a gallery for her, except for some very different stuff on DeviantART).
As for the dome-headed dinosaurs - I realized they were as dumb as dirt. I was just thinking - since we are on the subject of fantasy-versions of dinos - that they'd make for interesting psionic type (the whole comic-bookish 'big brain' thing). Something simple, like a disorientation ability or a form of mesmerizing antagonists (like a stun effect).
LOL - we could go with the Herculoids. :P
While trying to track down the artist(s), I found another interesting dinosaur related article with some weird concept art.
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Now I want to revive the Blink Mammoths from Dragon #156.
I LOVED blink mammoths. They were awesome to use on a party back in the days...:)
Now I want to revive the Blink Mammoths from Dragon #156.
Used 'em in a humor-themed adventure. Great fun at parties!