Possible to make a Mounted Charging Sap Master Rogue using a Lance?


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So we are probably going to play an E6 game sooner or later and I was trying to see if it would be possible to make a Mounted Sap Master Rogue using a Lance for that extra damage.

Swashbuckler could give me proficiency with a martial weapon. Scout could enable flat-footed on charges.

The problem I'm facing is the fact that Sap Master requires a bludgeoning weapon. Is there any way to make a Lance deal bludgeoning damage? Or is there some other weapon that deals bludgeoning damage as well as extra damage when doing mounted charges?


Nope. But you would still get double normal damage (not sneak attack) on a charge with another weapon...


Only if you GM houseruled it. Realistically, yeah you could have a lance with a blunt tip, but it would deal less damage overall because it wasn't sharp.


Ganny wrote:
Nope. But you would still get double normal damage (not sneak attack) on a charge with another weapon...

I'm pretty sure the double damage only applies to lances?

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Lej wrote:
Ganny wrote:
Nope. But you would still get double normal damage (not sneak attack) on a charge with another weapon...
I'm pretty sure the double damage only applies to lances?

You could take Spirited Charge to get double damage with any weapon used as part of a mounted charge, triple with a lance.

I thought there had to be an option for a blunted lance somewhere in Pathfinder, but I really don't think there is, I looked pretty thoroughly. Something could have escaped my notice, but...

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You could subject me to hours of Slim Whitman's yodeling and I wouldn't give it to you. You can not charge with a lance, and give subdual damage even if you quote RAW and verse to me.

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LazarX wrote:
You could subject me to hours of Slim Whitman's yodeling and I wouldn't give it to you. You can not charge with a lance, and give subdual damage even if you quote RAW and verse to me.

Lol, it is kind of hard to believe someone who says "I know I came flying at him full tilt on a creature weighing half a ton and nailed him with a ten foot long piece of treated wood (or metal), but don't worry, I made sure it was non-lethal."


Lej wrote:

So we are probably going to play an E6 game sooner or later and I was trying to see if it would be possible to make a Mounted Sap Master Rogue using a Lance for that extra damage.

Swashbuckler could give me proficiency with a martial weapon. Scout could enable flat-footed on charges.

The problem I'm facing is the fact that Sap Master requires a bludgeoning weapon. Is there any way to make a Lance deal bludgeoning damage? Or is there some other weapon that deals bludgeoning damage as well as extra damage when doing mounted charges?

yes, first go scout archetype SA on a charge 2nd find stats for a training lance, they use non sharpened points so as not to be lethal.


Ssalarn wrote:
LazarX wrote:
You could subject me to hours of Slim Whitman's yodeling and I wouldn't give it to you. You can not charge with a lance, and give subdual damage even if you quote RAW and verse to me.
Lol, it is kind of hard to believe someone who says "I know I came flying at him full tilt on a creature weighing half a ton and nailed him with a ten foot long piece of treated wood (or metal), but don't worry, I made sure it was non-lethal."

It's not gonna make much more sense even if I have to do it with an Earth Breaker :D

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Lej wrote:
Ssalarn wrote:
LazarX wrote:
You could subject me to hours of Slim Whitman's yodeling and I wouldn't give it to you. You can not charge with a lance, and give subdual damage even if you quote RAW and verse to me.
Lol, it is kind of hard to believe someone who says "I know I came flying at him full tilt on a creature weighing half a ton and nailed him with a ten foot long piece of treated wood (or metal), but don't worry, I made sure it was non-lethal."
It's not gonna make much more sense even if I have to do it with an Earth Breaker :D

Hah!


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Ssalarn wrote:
Lej wrote:
Ssalarn wrote:
LazarX wrote:
You could subject me to hours of Slim Whitman's yodeling and I wouldn't give it to you. You can not charge with a lance, and give subdual damage even if you quote RAW and verse to me.
Lol, it is kind of hard to believe someone who says "I know I came flying at him full tilt on a creature weighing half a ton and nailed him with a ten foot long piece of treated wood (or metal), but don't worry, I made sure it was non-lethal."
It's not gonna make much more sense even if I have to do it with an Earth Breaker :D
Hah!

Merciful Weapon.

Then all you you have to say is "A Wizard did it."

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