Correct Monk Attacks?


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Silver Crusade

I'm really sorry to have to ask this... I tried to research it last night and came across tons of different threads, FAQ entries, allegations that various NPC entries in books contradict one another on this topic, etc... and I simply cannot figure it out on my own.

I'd like to ask for some quick help understanding Monk attacks, both their non-Flurry attack and the Flurry attack bonuses. Please consider the stats below:

Human Monk 1 (Qinggong Archetype, if this matters)
Str 18 (16 + 2 Racial)
Dex 14
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 14
Cha 10 (I know this is sub-optimal, but I have plans for the Cha score so dumping Int worked better for my concept)

Feats are Toughness (Human Bonus), Deflect Arrows (Monk Bonus), and... I have not chosen the Character Level 1 feat yet. I don't think any of them could affect this question, though.

Traits: Unsure. Most likely something granting Diplomacy as a class skill, and Mizu Ki Hikari Rebel (+1 Unarmed Damage)

With all this laid out, I think the attack bonuses on their Unarmed Strike would be something like this?

Unarmed Strike (Standard/Attack Action): +4 for 1d6+5

Flurry of Blows: Any of... (and remember the Trait bonus is adding damage here, otherwise I think it's 1d6+4)

+3/+3 (1d6+5/1d6+5)
+4/+4 (1d6+5/1d6+5)
+5/+5 (1d6+5/1d6+5)

Based on my reading, I'd think the +3/+3 is correct? My understanding is it's something like... Monk 1 replaces BAB, so +1 BAB, then Str +4, then -2 for Two Weapon Fighting (both light/'off-hand' weapons). 1 + 4 = 5, then -2 = 3?

If I'm right, would the Monk at level 2 look like... standard Unarmed at +5, Flurry at +4/+4?

Do I have all this right, and if so am I right for the right reasons? It's an embarrassing question to ask because this is a core mechanic of a core class, but with all the debate on how the Monk class works I wanted to be 100% sure before I bring this sheet to tables.


Normal penalties to hit for Two Weapon Fighting are -10/-6, so with Flurry of Blows which is like the Two Weapon Fighting feat that drops by -2/-6 respectively (-4/-4). The Monk class chart shows that at 1st level you will get -1/-1 to hit so I am not sure where the +3 is coming from. With flurry of blows I don't think you add in your strength bonus for the melee to hit attack roll but you do include it for damage.

Grand Lodge

The +3/+3 is correct. If you have access to the monk's progression chart, then all you should have to do is add the strength modifier to the corresponding attack bonus. When it is not a flurry attack you use the normal base and when you use flurry option you use the flurry attack bonus. The flurry attack bonus already takes into account the adjusted base bonus and the two weapon fighting penalties.


+3/+3 is right. You are treated as two weapon fighting, and unarmed attacks are light off-hands, netting a -2 penalty on all attacks made. With a Flurry, his BAB is equal to his level, meaning that for a level 1 monk, before any other bonuses, has a -1/-1 set of attacks. With a +4 strength mod, that equals out to +3/+3.


I see now, good to know!

Silver Crusade

Thank you for the confirmations! It is appreciated.

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