Can a halfling occupy the same space as a cloud giant?


Rules Questions


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As far as I can tell, the relevant rules:

1:

PRD wrote:
Ending Your Movement: You can't end your movement in the same square as another creature unless it is helpless.
2:
PRD wrote:
Very Small Creature: A Fine, Diminutive, or Tiny creature can move into or through an occupied square. The creature provokes attacks of opportunity when doing so.
3:
PRD wrote:

Square Occupied by Creature Three Sizes Larger or Smaller: Any creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories larger than itself.

A big creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories smaller than it is. Creatures moving through squares occupied by other creatures provoke attacks of opportunity from those creatures.

We also know that a creature of Tiny size or smaller must move into the space of another creature in order to attack, as it has natural reach of 0ft.

While neither 2 or 3 specifically says it is an exception to 1, it is probably safe to say that at least 2 has to be, or else it would be impossible to be scratched by a cat. Can the same be said for 3? It lacks the word "into", which would imply that it only allows a halfling (small) to move through the cloud giant's (huge) space as long as he goes all the way through and doesn't end his move in the giant's space. However, this gets a bit weird if both halfling and giant are under the effect of reduce person. Now, even though their relative is unchanged, it would seem that the halfling (now tiny) CAN end his move in the space of the giant (now large). That doesn't make sense to me.

So, how exactly does this work?

Is there already an FAQ or errata about this? Have any of you encountered this in your games?


Off hand I would think yes the halfling can. Check out the 'squeezing' rules. thought that Might be a different systems or my group adapted it from a different system, but I've recalled having 2 halflings in the same square 'sweezing' which I believe makes them flat footed and gives penalties. Not sure how that works in combat. (if its not a RULE then just ask the GM, it make since that they can.

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