paizo.com Recent Posts in Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationpaizo.com Recent Posts in Mythic Combat Reflexes clarification2013-03-25T22:26:40Z2013-03-25T22:26:40ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationVenomblade (alias of mark brown 850)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#82012-12-07T21:54:23Z2012-12-07T21:54:23Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Artanthos wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Venomblade wrote:</div><blockquote><p> This REALLY works well with the Barbarians Rage power Come and get me. I would always run out of Attacks of opportunity if I was fighting things with a lot of attacks. Now with this mythic feat a Mythic barbarian with Mythic combat reflexes will never run out!</p>
<p>Love it!</p>
<p>Also if he gets some giant hide armor and a reach weapon there are tons of AoO before the mobs get to him. </blockquote>Come and get me is always fun, until you fight something with greater vital strike and mythic vital strike. </blockquote><p>Yes, Giants with greater vital strike are the one thing that has taken my barbarian out.
<p>oh.. and Maze. HA!</p>Artanthos wrote:Venomblade wrote:This REALLY works well with the Barbarians Rage power Come and get me. I would always run out of Attacks of opportunity if I was fighting things with a lot of attacks. Now with this mythic feat a Mythic barbarian with Mythic combat reflexes will never run out!
Love it!
Also if he gets some giant hide armor and a reach weapon there are tons of AoO before the mobs get to him.
Come and get me is always fun, until you fight something with greater vital strike...Venomblade (alias of mark brown 850)2012-12-07T21:54:23ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationVenomblade (alias of mark brown 850)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#72012-12-07T21:52:41Z2012-12-07T21:52:41Z<p>Ooh! A Zen Archer with Reflexive Shot and improved snap shot and combat patrol... Would not even have to move! Interesting!</p>Ooh! A Zen Archer with Reflexive Shot and improved snap shot and combat patrol... Would not even have to move! Interesting!Venomblade (alias of mark brown 850)2012-12-07T21:52:41ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationArtanthos (alias of Michael Sumrall)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#62012-12-07T21:51:14Z2012-12-07T21:51:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Venomblade wrote:</div><blockquote><p> This REALLY works well with the Barbarians Rage power Come and get me. I would always run out of Attacks of opportunity if I was fighting things with a lot of attacks. Now with this mythic feat a Mythic barbarian with Mythic combat reflexes will never run out!</p>
<p>Love it!</p>
<p>Also if he gets some giant hide armor and a reach weapon there are tons of AoO before the mobs get to him. </blockquote><p>Come and get me is always fun, until you fight something with greater vital strike and mythic vital strike.Venomblade wrote:This REALLY works well with the Barbarians Rage power Come and get me. I would always run out of Attacks of opportunity if I was fighting things with a lot of attacks. Now with this mythic feat a Mythic barbarian with Mythic combat reflexes will never run out!
Love it!
Also if he gets some giant hide armor and a reach weapon there are tons of AoO before the mobs get to him.
Come and get me is always fun, until you fight something with greater vital strike and mythic vital...Artanthos (alias of Michael Sumrall)2012-12-07T21:51:14ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationDominigohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#52012-12-07T21:44:05Z2012-12-07T21:44:05Z<p>Mythic Combat Reflexes + Combat Patrol + Reach Weapon could lead to some potentially fun times.</p>Mythic Combat Reflexes + Combat Patrol + Reach Weapon could lead to some potentially fun times.Dominigo2012-12-07T21:44:05ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationVenomblade (alias of mark brown 850)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#42012-12-07T21:38:15Z2012-12-07T21:38:15Z<p>This REALLY works well with the Barbarians Rage power Come and get me. I would always run out of Attacks of opportunity if I was fighting things with a lot of attacks. Now with this mythic feat a Mythic barbarian with Mythic combat reflexes will never run out!</p>
<p>Love it!</p>
<p>Also if he gets some giant hide armor and a reach weapon there are tons of AoO before the mobs get to him.</p>This REALLY works well with the Barbarians Rage power Come and get me. I would always run out of Attacks of opportunity if I was fighting things with a lot of attacks. Now with this mythic feat a Mythic barbarian with Mythic combat reflexes will never run out!
Love it!
Also if he gets some giant hide armor and a reach weapon there are tons of AoO before the mobs get to him.Venomblade (alias of mark brown 850)2012-12-07T21:38:15ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationTinalleshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#32012-12-07T05:00:04Z2012-12-07T05:00:04Z<p>Huh. Okay, I guess that makes sense. I'll see how that plays out on Saturday, I guess. Thanks!</p>Huh. Okay, I guess that makes sense. I'll see how that plays out on Saturday, I guess. Thanks!Tinalles2012-12-07T05:00:04ZRe: Forums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationDasrakhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#22012-12-07T03:35:47Z2012-12-07T03:35:47Z<p>By my reading, the Hydra would still get only one AoO whenever Fred provokes. Normally if Fred were to try to run past the Hydra, he would only provoke one attack of opportunity regardless of how many threatened squares he passed through. When the Hydra spends a mythic point in this way, Fred provokes one attack of opportunity for <i>each</i> threatened square he passes through.</p>By my reading, the Hydra would still get only one AoO whenever Fred provokes. Normally if Fred were to try to run past the Hydra, he would only provoke one attack of opportunity regardless of how many threatened squares he passed through. When the Hydra spends a mythic point in this way, Fred provokes one attack of opportunity for each threatened square he passes through.Dasrak2012-12-07T03:35:47ZForums/Mythic Adventures Playtest: General Discussion: Mythic Combat Reflexes clarificationTinalleshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8hv?Mythic-Combat-Reflexes-clarification#12012-12-07T01:15:40Z2012-12-07T01:15:40Z<p>I'll be GM'ing the adventure from the playtest document on Saturday, and I'm not sure I understand exactly how Mythic Combat Reflexes works.</p>
<p>It says:</p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>So, scenario: a mythic hydra faces off against Fred the Fighter 6/Champion 3. Fred wins initiative.</p>
<p>Round 1</p>
<p>Fred — Spends a swift action and on mythic power usage to Fleet Charge in and attempt a sunder on one head. He then spends a full attack action to make two more sunder attempts. The Hydra gets 4 AoOs, one for Fred passing into his threatened area (10 foot reach), and one per sunder attempt since Fred doesn't have Improved Sunder. Assume for the scenario that all the sunder attempts fail.</p>
<p>Hydra — Full attack on Fred, and spends a swift action and 1 mythic power point on Combat Reflexes.</p>
<p>Round 2</p>
<p>Fred — Spends a point on Fleet Charge, opts to move only 5 feet as part of it, and takes his free attack as a sunder on a head. Then he tries two more sunder attempts on other heads.</p>
<p>And here is where I am confused.</p>
<p>In Round 2, when Fred provokes an attack by trying to sunder a head, how many attacks of opportunity does the hydra get? Just one? Seven? Because if Fred provokes essentially a full attack for each sunder, then he'll be the target of between 18-21 attacks in round 2, in which case he's likely to be in a world of hurt.</p>
<p>But if he only provokes 1, then what's the point of spending mythic power points on Mythic Combat Reflexes?</p>
<p>EDIT: On a second reading, I see that spending a power usage on Mythic Combat Reflexes only applies to AoOs from movement, so once the PCs have closed to melee range it's only useful if I can engineer a situation where they provoke due to movement. But even then I'm not clear if I can take a full attack as a result of spending a mythic power point on the feat.</p>I'll be GM'ing the adventure from the playtest document on Saturday, and I'm not sure I understand exactly how Mythic Combat Reflexes works.
It says:
[Spoiler omitted]
So, scenario: a mythic hydra faces off against Fred the Fighter 6/Champion 3. Fred wins initiative.
Round 1
Fred -- Spends a swift action and on mythic power usage to Fleet Charge in and attempt a sunder on one head. He then spends a full attack action to make two more sunder attempts. The Hydra gets 4 AoOs, one for Fred...Tinalles2012-12-07T01:15:40Z