paizo.com Recent Posts in Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & Microtransactionspaizo.com Recent Posts in Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & Microtransactions2013-02-28T17:33:45Z2013-02-28T17:33:45ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsXeenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3352013-03-07T00:14:42Z2013-03-07T00:14:42Z<p>I will thanks</p>I will thanksXeen2013-03-07T00:14:42ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsValandurhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3342013-03-06T12:52:22Z2013-03-06T12:52:22Z<p>@Xeen, they have said that once they get the latest kick starter fulfillment system going that they will introduce ways for those who missed the KS to donate to the game and get into EE . Likely it will have other options too but we will have to wait until they introduce this plan. Just keep an eye on the GW site for info.</p>@Xeen, they have said that once they get the latest kick starter fulfillment system going that they will introduce ways for those who missed the KS to donate to the game and get into EE . Likely it will have other options too but we will have to wait until they introduce this plan. Just keep an eye on the GW site for info.Valandur2013-03-06T12:52:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsXeenhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3332013-03-07T02:01:38Z2013-03-06T06:42:57Z<p>Is there any way to get some of the kickstarter benefits now? Since I didn't find the game plans months ago... Unfortunately since I love the sandbox game style. Been playing Eve for years, love the game, but would rather play a Fantasy Sandbox game. </p>
<p>Maybe do a second kickstarter? Lets say for... The Server. Keep the game running on one server. All people play on that server. Setup the kickstarter for the server as an investment to save till closer to launch. </p>
<p>Have the kickstarter give mostly the same rewards, except take out some of the physical items like books and minis. Maybe increase some of the virtual rewards, that way the funding all goes to the server and no physical item costs.</p>
<p>Anyway, just a thought.</p>Is there any way to get some of the kickstarter benefits now? Since I didn't find the game plans months ago... Unfortunately since I love the sandbox game style. Been playing Eve for years, love the game, but would rather play a Fantasy Sandbox game.
Maybe do a second kickstarter? Lets say for... The Server. Keep the game running on one server. All people play on that server. Setup the kickstarter for the server as an investment to save till closer to launch.
Have the kickstarter give...Xeen2013-03-06T06:42:57ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsHarad Navarhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3322013-03-04T00:00:20Z2013-03-04T00:00:20Z<p>Ah, I meant more experience playing the game.</p>Ah, I meant more experience playing the game.Harad Navar2013-03-04T00:00:20ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBluddwolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3312013-03-03T23:55:05Z2013-03-03T23:55:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Harad Navar wrote:</div><blockquote> I can envision several cases where you leave your first character behind because with more experience you can build characters better. You also may find a new direction (alignment) more fun. </blockquote><p>With DT neither character will have more experience, perhaps a different set if skills, but the same amount of experience.
<p>Experience is expressed in real time and then spent on skills, which take real time to train. There are no actual experience points. There are no character levels, unless we chose to describe them through the expression of skill points.</p>
<p>Example: EVE Online</p>
<p>In EvE there are no levels, but many people will say how many total skill points their character has. I have also seen it, and used it myself, where the player converts every 1 million points into a Skill level but this is usually done on fan website where it asks for character level.</p>Harad Navar wrote:I can envision several cases where you leave your first character behind because with more experience you can build characters better. You also may find a new direction (alignment) more fun.
With DT neither character will have more experience, perhaps a different set if skills, but the same amount of experience. Experience is expressed in real time and then spent on skills, which take real time to train. There are no actual experience points. There are no character levels,...Bluddwolf2013-03-03T23:55:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsHarad Navarhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3302013-03-03T20:47:04Z2013-03-03T20:47:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bluddwolf wrote:</div><blockquote> It is like having two equal characters on the same account. One is only your "main" if you play that character more often. We are just so used to MMOs describe a second, inferior character as an alt. with DT neither character needs to be inferior, it is only if you chose to play it that way. </blockquote><p>I can envision several cases where you leave your first character behind because with more experience you can build characters better. You also may find a new direction (alignment) more fun.Bluddwolf wrote:It is like having two equal characters on the same account. One is only your "main" if you play that character more often. We are just so used to MMOs describe a second, inferior character as an alt. with DT neither character needs to be inferior, it is only if you chose to play it that way.
I can envision several cases where you leave your first character behind because with more experience you can build characters better. You also may find a new direction (alignment) more fun.Harad Navar2013-03-03T20:47:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBluddwolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3292013-03-03T10:18:24Z2013-03-03T10:18:24Z<p>It is like having two equal characters on the same account. One is only your "main" if you play that character more often. We are just so used to MMOs describe a second, inferior character as an alt. with DT neither character needs to be inferior, it is only if you chose to play it that way.</p>It is like having two equal characters on the same account. One is only your "main" if you play that character more often. We are just so used to MMOs describe a second, inferior character as an alt. with DT neither character needs to be inferior, it is only if you chose to play it that way.Bluddwolf2013-03-03T10:18:24ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBeinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3282013-03-03T03:55:12Z2013-03-03T03:55:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Harad Navar wrote:</div><blockquote> As I understand it (quite possibly imperfectly) with Destiny's Twin (DT) you can train your main and your twin at the same time. Otherwise plying two characters with the same amount of training time at the same time would require being logged in on two separate accounts, not one. Therefore it is not fair to other players for a DT player to play this way at half the price over someone who does not have DT. </blockquote><p>Mmm not quite, at least that doesn't quite jibe with what I think I understand.
<p>Destiny's perk is for one alt character and your main character: those are the twins. </p>
<p>A single account can have multiple characters. The backer who picks up DT has to designate which of their several characters is the main and which one of their alts is the twin.</p>
<p>Then, when they buy whatever it takes for their main to accrue XP over time, that xp will also accrue to the twin.</p>
<p>Then, to actually train a skill, the main character does whatever it takes to acquire and activate that skill using that character's accumulated XP. If the player then decides he want to train a skill on the alt twin, he has to log into that alt and go do whatever it takes to acquire and activate that skill using the exp earned while the main was gaining xp.</p>
<p>If XP is gasoline and my main character is a car, my DT alt would be another car I have in the garage. The destiny's twin perk makes it so that if I go fill up the gasoline tank on my main, my DT alt's gas tank also fills up.</p>
<p>If I drive my main car to the store ten I use the gas/xp in the main's tank. The DT alt's tank though is still full. To use it I would have to go back and take him for a spin as well.</p>
<p>Hopefully that cleared things up a little. And hopefully it is right.</p>Harad Navar wrote:As I understand it (quite possibly imperfectly) with Destiny's Twin (DT) you can train your main and your twin at the same time. Otherwise plying two characters with the same amount of training time at the same time would require being logged in on two separate accounts, not one. Therefore it is not fair to other players for a DT player to play this way at half the price over someone who does not have DT.
Mmm not quite, at least that doesn't quite jibe with what I think I...Being2013-03-03T03:55:12ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsJiminyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3272013-03-16T04:04:01Z2013-03-03T03:50:36Z<p>I'll say it again. It's an economic decision.</p>
<p>Want two character training in tandem but only play one at a time? Get DT.
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Want two character training in tandem and be able to multibox? Buy another subscription.</p>I'll say it again. It's an economic decision.
Want two character training in tandem but only play one at a time? Get DT.
Want two character training in tandem and be able to multibox? Buy another subscription.Jiminy2013-03-03T03:50:36ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBluddwolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3262013-03-03T03:40:40Z2013-03-03T03:40:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Harad Navar wrote:</div><blockquote> As I understand it (quite possibly imperfectly) with Destiny's Twin (DT) you can train your main and your twin at the same time. Otherwise plying two characters with the same amount of training time at the same time would require being logged in on two separate accounts, not one. Therefore it is not fair to other players for a DT player to play this way at half the price over someone who does not have DT. </blockquote><p>The only time something is not fair is when an opportunity is denied. Everyone has had the same opportunity to get Destiny's Twin, even if there were a limited number of KS packages, everyone had the same line to get in.
<p>It makes perfect sense that you can't log into the same account with two different characters at the same time. What DT allows us to do is train two characters, equally, at the same time. We do not get the training at half price, we get to train two characters for one price. No one is forcing you to buy an extra account to have the same. But considering what DT does allow, and for such a small amount of KS, it was really foolish or unfortunate not to take advantage of the opportunity.</p>Harad Navar wrote:As I understand it (quite possibly imperfectly) with Destiny's Twin (DT) you can train your main and your twin at the same time. Otherwise plying two characters with the same amount of training time at the same time would require being logged in on two separate accounts, not one. Therefore it is not fair to other players for a DT player to play this way at half the price over someone who does not have DT.
The only time something is not fair is when an opportunity is denied....Bluddwolf2013-03-03T03:40:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsHarad Navarhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3252013-03-03T03:22:44Z2013-03-03T03:22:44Z<p>As I understand it (quite possibly imperfectly) with Destiny's Twin (DT) you can train your main and your twin at the same time. Otherwise plying two characters with the same amount of training time at the same time would require being logged in on two separate accounts, not one. Therefore it is not fair to other players for a DT player to play this way at half the price over someone who does not have DT.</p>As I understand it (quite possibly imperfectly) with Destiny's Twin (DT) you can train your main and your twin at the same time. Otherwise plying two characters with the same amount of training time at the same time would require being logged in on two separate accounts, not one. Therefore it is not fair to other players for a DT player to play this way at half the price over someone who does not have DT.Harad Navar2013-03-03T03:22:44ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsDeciusBrutus (alias of Daniel Powell 318)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3242013-03-03T01:36:41Z2013-03-03T01:36:41Z<p>I'm confused; what is the advantage that a DT character has over the main character on the same account?</p>
<p>Or is the objection to the fact that people who participated in the KS got in excess of ~$2500 worth of virtual goods.</p>I'm confused; what is the advantage that a DT character has over the main character on the same account?
Or is the objection to the fact that people who participated in the KS got in excess of ~$2500 worth of virtual goods.DeciusBrutus (alias of Daniel Powell 318)2013-03-03T01:36:41ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsValkenrhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3232013-03-02T23:14:19Z2013-03-02T23:14:19Z<p>Ryan made it clear he doesn't care if you think DT is unfair, if you want the exact same advantage, and don't have the DT perk, your subscription cost is $30/mo, if you aren't buying training time in-game.</p>Ryan made it clear he doesn't care if you think DT is unfair, if you want the exact same advantage, and don't have the DT perk, your subscription cost is $30/mo, if you aren't buying training time in-game.Valkenr2013-03-02T23:14:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBeinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3222013-03-02T12:20:22Z2013-03-02T12:20:22Z<p>Or it could be an acknowledgement that there is indeed an unfair element of advantage conferred by destiny's twin which really should be mitigated by such a rule.</p>Or it could be an acknowledgement that there is indeed an unfair element of advantage conferred by destiny's twin which really should be mitigated by such a rule.Being2013-03-02T12:20:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsJiminyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3212013-03-02T04:25:40Z2013-03-02T04:25:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Valkenr wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account.</blockquote><div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.</blockquote>Why would destiny's twin characters not be able to log in at the same time, while regular characters can?</blockquote><p>I assume this is a measure to retard the advancement of DT characters, something that was gained as a perk but allows those players to get the advantages of two subscriptions without having to pay for such. In other words, an economic decision.Valkenr wrote:Ryan Dancey wrote:You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account.
Ryan Dancey wrote:You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.
Why would destiny's twin characters not be able to log in at the same time, while regular characters can?I assume this is a measure to retard the advancement of DT characters, something that was gained as a perk but allows those players to...Jiminy2013-03-02T04:25:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBeinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3202013-03-02T04:02:30Z2013-03-02T04:02:30Z<p>Um. Games have rules?</p>Um. Games have rules?Being2013-03-02T04:02:30ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsValkenrhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3192013-03-02T03:30:42Z2013-03-02T03:30:42Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account.</blockquote><div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.</blockquote><p>Why would destiny's twin characters not be able to log in at the same time, while regular characters can?Ryan Dancey wrote:You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account.
Ryan Dancey wrote:You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.
Why would destiny's twin characters not be able to log in at the same time, while regular characters can?Valkenr2013-03-02T03:30:42ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBeinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3182013-03-01T02:36:38Z2013-03-01T02:36:38Z<p>Oh dear. Whatever will I do without all the drama.</p>Oh dear. Whatever will I do without all the drama.Being2013-03-01T02:36:38ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsJiminyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3172013-03-16T04:03:25Z2013-02-28T22:13:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account. </blockquote><p>OMG...WTF!!! You mean its's not a pay to win perk like we were told and we're not disadvantaging all those that missed the Kickstarter?!?! No way!
<p>/sarcasm</p>
<p>Now that Ryan has answered a heap of questions with rational answers, maybe all the passive aggressive rants and histrionics can stop and we can go back to our regularly scheduled program.</p>Ryan Dancey wrote:You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.
OMG...WTF!!! You mean its's not a pay to win perk like we were told and we're not disadvantaging all those that missed the Kickstarter?!?! No way! /sarcasm
Now that Ryan has answered a heap of questions with rational answers, maybe all the passive aggressive rants and histrionics can stop and we can go back to our regularly scheduled program.Jiminy2013-02-28T22:13:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsThe Wiseman of the Wildshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3162013-02-28T21:50:58Z2013-02-28T21:50:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Being wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote> ... I'd rather spend my time maximizing the play value for everyone than trying to police behaviors that cannot be stopped.</blockquote>Have you considered running for office? We could use some more pragmatic legislators. </blockquote><p>+1 FOR THIS
<p>And thanks again for Ryan for coming and settling the DT debate, was one of the few things there has been angst between Kickstarters/non-kickstarters.</p>Being wrote:Ryan Dancey wrote: ... I'd rather spend my time maximizing the play value for everyone than trying to police behaviors that cannot be stopped.
Have you considered running for office? We could use some more pragmatic legislators. +1 FOR THIS And thanks again for Ryan for coming and settling the DT debate, was one of the few things there has been angst between Kickstarters/non-kickstarters.The Wiseman of the Wilds2013-02-28T21:50:58ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsBeinghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3152013-03-16T04:03:13Z2013-02-28T21:34:45Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote> ... I'd rather spend my time maximizing the play value for everyone than trying to police behaviors that cannot be stopped.</blockquote><p>Have you considered running for office? We could use some more pragmatic legislators.Ryan Dancey wrote:... I'd rather spend my time maximizing the play value for everyone than trying to police behaviors that cannot be stopped.
Have you considered running for office? We could use some more pragmatic legislators.Being2013-02-28T21:34:45ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsNihimonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3142013-02-28T23:46:09Z2013-02-28T20:53:59Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account.</blockquote><p>Awesome! Thank you :)
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Ryan Dancey wrote:</div><blockquote>You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.</blockquote><p>That sounds like it also means we <i>may</i>, which is also awesome.Ryan Dancey wrote:You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account.
Awesome! Thank you :) Ryan Dancey wrote:You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account.
That sounds like it also means we may, which is also awesome.Nihimon2013-02-28T20:53:59ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsRyan Danceyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3132015-11-26T05:06:13Z2013-02-28T20:46:22Z<p>Some answers to questions posed elsewhere in this thread:</p>
<p>You will be able to have more than one character training on an account. You will pay for all the training you get. So you will be able to pay 2x the monthly subscription cost and have 2 characters training in parallel. Or you can get parallel training using training time purchased direct from the cash store, or acquired on the in-game market for Coin. There is no practical limit to how many characters you'll be able to train in parallel.</p>
<p>(This is my objective. Technical limitations beyond my control might affect this but at this time I see none.)</p>
<p>You will be able to log in more than one character on the same account. So you can run the client twice, or run the client on two computers logged into the same account. (This is commonly called "multiboxing").</p>
<p>(Ditto to previous disclaimer).</p>
<p>You MAY NOT be able to log in your Destiny's Twin character at the same time you are logged in to another character on that account. I haven't thought through all the complexities yet. It is likely that you will have to specify, in a way that cannot be changed, which characters are Twins. This twinning effect may have other repercussions TBD, such as the inability to sell either Twin to another player separately if and when we enable character or account transfers.</p>
<p>You MAY be able to buy an account with Destiny's Twin when we open the Fulfillment Tool. This is envisioned as a way to allow people who missed the Kickstarter to get some (but not all) of the benefits we offered to Kickstarters directly. It is a virtual certainty that at some point we will start removing options from the Fulfillment tool, and by the time we get to Early Enrollment, many benefits, almost certainly including Destiny's Twin, will be unavailable.</p>
<p>Frankly, my opinion is that if you think Destiny's Twin is a paramount advantage that the game cannot be satisfactory without, and you don't have Destiny's Twin, then our game costs $30/mo instead of $15/mo for you to play, and that doesn't bother me.</p>
<p>I fully expect that many (most?) players will have multiple characters training, which implies multiple monthly training costs. The advantages to multiple characters is worth the cost. I think that many players will have multiple accounts, for the purpose of social engineering, because being able to represent yourself as two or more different humans to different social graphs has a huge value. And I expect that some people will have the hardware resources to run many of these characters simultaneously, giving them a hydra-headed interface to the game world.</p>
<p>If that bothers you, all I can say is that it happens in every other MMO, approved or not, and trying to stop it is impossible, like trying to stop RMT and Gold Farming. I'd rather spend my time maximizing the play value for everyone than trying to police behaviors that cannot be stopped.</p>
<p>RyanD</p>Some answers to questions posed elsewhere in this thread:
You will be able to have more than one character training on an account. You will pay for all the training you get. So you will be able to pay 2x the monthly subscription cost and have 2 characters training in parallel. Or you can get parallel training using training time purchased direct from the cash store, or acquired on the in-game market for Coin. There is no practical limit to how many characters you'll be able to train in...Ryan Dancey2013-02-28T20:46:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsOberyn Corvushttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3122013-02-28T18:11:01Z2013-02-28T18:11:01Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">MrSavarius wrote:</div><blockquote> If their business model relies on people having more than one account, I think they should take a look at their business model. </blockquote><p>As I understand it, thats how EVE is running their business. Considering that its not only around 9+ years after launch, but growing year on year, Id say its a successful modelMrSavarius wrote:If their business model relies on people having more than one account, I think they should take a look at their business model.
As I understand it, thats how EVE is running their business. Considering that its not only around 9+ years after launch, but growing year on year, Id say its a successful modelOberyn Corvus2013-02-28T18:11:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Online: Kickstarter Community Thread: Subscriptions & MicrotransactionsOberyn Corvushttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p8bh&page=7?Kickstarter-Community-Thread-Subscriptions#3112013-02-28T18:08:55Z2013-02-28T18:08:55Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Elana Nightrunner wrote:</div><blockquote> Yeah funny how you folks keep saying that. Yet I've not seen one post that says. "I didn't donate at the greenlight thing,and I think it makes perfect sense." Note that any that comes after this I shall dismiss as a troll.</blockquote><p>I actually did say that already. Look at the first post on page 6 of this thread. Here is the relevant part of my post
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Oberyn Corvus wrote:</div><blockquote> Speaking as someone who does NOT have the destiny's twin perk (I missed out on the KS), I do not think DT is in any way shape or form giving people an unfair advantage. </blockquote><p>And I have repeatedly stated that I do not feel entitled to being able to purchase DT just because I missed the opportunity. Still want to call troll?Elana Nightrunner wrote:Yeah funny how you folks keep saying that. Yet I've not seen one post that says. "I didn't donate at the greenlight thing,and I think it makes perfect sense." Note that any that comes after this I shall dismiss as a troll.
I actually did say that already. Look at the first post on page 6 of this thread. Here is the relevant part of my post Oberyn Corvus wrote:Speaking as someone who does NOT have the destiny's twin perk (I missed out on the KS), I do not think DT is...Oberyn Corvus2013-02-28T18:08:55Z