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Situation: an existing PFS player attends an event not expecting to play PFS, with none of his PFS character sheets, chronicles, etc. but due to events outside his control, unexpectedly ends up playing at a tier 3-4 PFS table, using a 4th-level pregen, earning a chronicle at the end.
When he gets home, can he apply this to his existing PFS character with 9 XP, i.e. reached 4th level but not yet played at that level?
Can he apply it to his existing PFS character with 10 or 11 XP, i.e. already played at that 4th level?
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As long as the character is still level 4 they should be able to add a level 4 pregen sheet.
I think the only issue with this is players that would use pregens on purpose rather than using their own valid PC so that they don't have to risk their PC's life - as they could always transfer the dead pregen's sheet to a new PC number.
On second thought, there is a very real, valid reason not to allow existing level 4 PCs to benefit from a level 4 pregen's Chronicle.
Perhaps it is best to follow the text in the Guide quite literally.
Venture-Captain, Ireland—Belfast
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Don. I pondered on exactly what you mention. There is a possibility that people could try and exploit the rules. What turned the matter for me is that I always try to get the PFS number that the chronicles will be applied to at the start of the game so the player needs to establish if is an existing PC or a new one.
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Regional Venture-Coordinator, Mediterranean
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But remember that any conditions acquired by the pre-gen have to be dealt with or applied to the character - i.e. disease, negative levels, death, etc. So the risk isn't avoided.Only if you assign numbers before the scenario, and not at the end. I've seen it done both ways.
That shouldn't make any difference as they have to be recorded on the chronicle sheet.
Venture-Captain, Michigan—Mt. Pleasant
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David, if you assign it before hand, then yes the conditions would have to be dealt with. If you assign it afterwards, there's nothing stopping the player from assigning it to a new character and not bothering with it. So if the condition was death, he'd lose a character number and that'd be it.
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Venture-Captain, Ireland—Belfast
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The thing is that though the admin has been been known to be done after the game... is it not always the case that the character getting the chronicle needs to be chosen at the start?
Surely someone playing a pregen does not get to decide after looking at the chronicle which character it will be applied to? If they are then people will selectively apply but I am pretty sure they are not allowed to.
So anyone who starts a scenario intending to apply the credit to an existing character but then decides to apply it elsewhere, is not exploiting a loophole in the rules but is just cheating!
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Regional Venture-Coordinator, Mediterranean
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David, if you assign it before hand, then yes the conditions would have to be dealt with. If you assign it afterwards, there's nothing stopping the player from assigning it to a new character and not bothering with it. So if the condition was death, he'd lose a character number and that'd be it.
Not sure what you are saying there Eric.
The way I see it working is that at the end of the scenario the GM gives out a chronicle sheet recording that, say, the character acquired a negative level. So when it is later assigned to a 4th level character that character has a chronicle sheet indicating that they have a negative level. Yes, the player could choose not to apply the chronicle sheet to any character and just destroy the chronicle sheet.|
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Personally I rule via RAI here. Since, in the past, modules specifically prohibited the use of a pregen credit from being applied to extant characters--because modules were hard, and people died--I assume it is intentional that scenarios did not. By extension, I see no reason that you couldn't put a pregen credit on an existing character of the appropriate level.
In fact, if you forgot your binder or whatever and played unexpectedly, why couldn't you put a 4th level pregen credit on a 5th level character? Either you played Tier 4-5, in which case it's level-appropriate, or you played up, in which case you earned it with a character who was less prepared than the character getting the credit.
Finally, and this is kind of a kicker, what's the point of splitting hairs over stuff we're not going to be able to find in an audit anyway? Unless the GM specifically writes "OMG 4TH LEVEL PREGEN CREDIT NO LOVE OF ANY OTHER KIND" on the sheet, it looks like all the others. And if we can't even get them to fill out event codes, I doubt we can rely on consistent notation of pregen credit.
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As far as I am aware, and this is without the guide in front of me (I am out of state), if you are playing a Pregen all conditions need to be resolved by the end of the scenario, I do not know what the consequences are of you can't do that.
I know for a Fact of your Pregen is killed and you can't get a raise, what ever PC gets the credit is reported as Dead, even if your plan was to hold the credit for a PC until the reached the level of a Pregen.
I know some people think you can hold off the death until that level of the pregen in hopes of paying it off later but that is incorrect.