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Since Vermin are mindless, are they immune to the Awaken spell?
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/spells/awaken.html
Vermin are not animals.
You would need the Vermin Heart feat, or something similar.
Also, it is a transmutation effect, not mind-effecting.
Vermin are immune to awaken, but not because they are mindless. Awaken only works on creatures of the animal type, or trees.
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Vermin Heart feat allows your spells and abilities that effect Animals, to effect Vermin.
So, it's doable.
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The amazing thing is that Awaken can be cast on trees without taking a feat. Where is the logic of that?
Does anyone have stats for an Awakened tree? They should have Con scores.
You'd use the animated object rules; it would vary according to the size of the tree.
Matthew Downie wrote: You'd use the animated object rules; it would vary according to the size of the tree. I know that part. I was specifically talking about the Con score, which animated objects don't have.
I see: It's based on a Construct (meaning it has no Con score), but gains the Plant type (which means it needs a Con score).
The Construct rules say: "Any DCs or other statistics that rely on a Constitution score treat a construct as having a score of 10 (no bonus or penalty)."
So I'd suggest that the Awakened tree should default to a Con of 10.
Matthew Downie wrote: I see: It's based on a Construct (meaning it has no Con score), but gains the Plant type (which means it needs a Con score).
The Construct rules say: "Any DCs or other statistics that rely on a Constitution score treat a construct as having a score of 10 (no bonus or penalty)."
So I'd suggest that the Awakened tree should default to a Con of 10.
That sounds like the right answer... though shockingly low for a giant animated tree.
Don't forget bonus HP based on the construct size.
/cevah
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