Full round actions and Speed Weapons


Rules Questions


So if a sword saint has a speed Katana and uses Iaijutsu strike, does he get the second attack from the speed property?

Iaijutsu Strike (Ex)
A sword saint can perform a lightning quick iaijutsu strike against the target of his challenge to inflict devastating wounds while drawing his sword. After the sword saint has challenged a foe but before he has attacked the target of his challenge, he may choose to use his iaijutsu strike as a full-round action, making an attack roll with his weapon as normal. In order to use this ability, the sword saint’s weapon must be sheathed at the start of his turn. If he successfully hits his opponent with an iaijutsu strike, his attack deals an additional +1d6 points of damage. This bonus damage increases by an additional +1d6 at 3rd level and every two levels thereafter to a maximum of +10d6 damage at 19th level. Any extra damage as a result of a successful iaijutsu strike is not multiplied by a critical hit.

Speed Weapon Property:
When making a full-attack action, the wielder of a speed weapon may make one extra attack with it. The attack uses the wielder's full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation. (This benefit is not cumulative with similar effects, such as a haste spell.)

I'm not sure how the verbage all works out...?


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Full-round actions aren't full attack actions, although full attack actions are full-round actions.

So it doesn't work, based on the parts that you made bold.

You can read more about it here. A full attack action is a specific type of full-round action.

Liberty's Edge

I'm with Cheapy.

This isn't an "and" situation, it is an "or" situation. You may do either 1) a full-round-action to make an Iaijutsu strike for extra damage OR 2) a full-round-action to make a full-attack in order to get an extra attack granted by the speed property.


thanks guys... it looks better when someone else explains it. I was running my logic backwards

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