Here is the official trailer for Iron Man 3. So far it looks awesome and I can't WAIT to see it.
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Its cool that its got Kingsley but don't people get tired of these avenger movies?
Nope
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Looks pretty awesome to me. I wonder who the voice is; it doesn't sound like Ben Kingsley, so I'm thinking not the Mandarin.
Do you mean the..."Some people call me a terrorist...." voice? If so, then yeah, that was Sir Ben. I believe they have said he will be the Mandarin, because Disney/Marvel caught a lot of flack for not getting a Chinese actor to play the part and had to defend their choice.
Plus, at one point they flash to his hands - wearing the rings. Whether or not that means a bit of magic involved - who knows? It might be that since they've talked about this movie adapting the Extremis story that maybe Mandarin will use the process on himself and whatever abilities Extremis give him will be channeled through the rings.
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Traditional Marvel canon held that the rings were technological artifacts of a crashed spaceship from some starfaring draconic race. There was a later storyline where the Mandarin went into a more magical direction, but I think he's back to being a techno/rich bastard/evil industrialist bad guy again. You never know with the movies tho.
I have always prefferd his rings to be magic because it makes more sense to have a magic using villian vs a technology using hero.
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Traditional Marvel canon held that the rings were technological artifacts of a crashed spaceship from some starfaring draconic race. There was a later storyline where the Mandarin went into a more magical direction, but I think he's back to being a techno/rich bastard/evil industrialist bad guy again. You never know with the movies tho.
Yeah, when I did my heaviest Marvel collecting he was in the magic rings phase. My mind always reverts to that. If I recall, didn't the draconic race include Fin Fang Foom?
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Its cool that its got Kingsley but don't people get tired of these avenger movies?
Only if you don't like comic books. I will never get tired of seeing well done comic book movies with continuity. Marvel is doing everything right with these stories.
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Its cool that its got Kingsley but don't people get tired of these avenger movies?Only if you don't like comic books. I will never get tired of seeing well done comic book movies with continuity. Marvel is doing everything right with these stories.
Agreed.
Also nope.
Nope +2
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Tony Stark finds himself before a weird guy in armor on a throne in a dark room. He thinks he is dead.
Tony Stark: "Not what I expected."
Mandarin: "Oh you're not dead if that is what you are thinking. Far from it."
Tony Stark tries to fire a repulsor blast and finds the energy merely neutralized.
Tony Stark: "My armor isn't working."
Mandarin: "You didn't invent the Armor, I planted the seeds of it in your mind and let them grow."
Tony Stark: "Yeah Right." Tony looks around thinking this guy is nuts.
Mandarin points to an old Soviet Era Suit of Powered Armor Reminiscent of the one Tony escaped the cave in.
Tony Stark: "Why?"
The Mandarin holds up a hand laden with rings.
Mandarin: "Because the blue energy is merely the first ring." A ring on his finger glows a familiar Blue followed by a diverse selection of colours.
Mandarin: "And it is neutralized by these Two." Holds up his hands with two glowing rings that are not blue. "They all have their Opposite and there are ten in all."
Tony Stark: "Why did you bring me here?"
Mandarin: "I want more Armor Tony." Mandarin Indicates one of Tony Stark's Powered Armors. "One powered by each kind of energy."
Tony Stark Smiles thinking of escape. The Mandarin Laughs finding Tony Stark's prospect of escape unlikely. Tony Laughs to be seen to be Sociable.
Can't wait. This is the movie I'm looking forward to the most.
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Watched it yesterday, enjoyed most of it in the theatre, but after I left the fridge knocked me upside the head. (Massive spoilers)
In general
The Good
Javis, always Jarvis. If I ever play Eberron again, I'm going to play a warforged like Jarvis.
I actually found the kid entertaining.
The Effects were nice, as was the humor. It was nice seeing Happy in a more active role. Also a nice callback to see Yinsen. One could argue Tony's life wasn't y2k compliant.
The scene with him salvaging Dummy was touching.
Ben Kingsly chewing the scenery
The Bad
The War Machine. Gods the War Machine
I want to see if Barack Obama was referenced as the President in the Avengers.
Iron Man suffers from Conservation of Ninjitsu. Tony Stark in a suit of armor, difficult. 40 so suits of armor, no problem.
The Fridge
So... Tony's arc reactor no longer can power his armor, but it has batteries to charge from a car battery? Really? I understand all the armors were independently powered, but still. (This is a special pet peeve of mine, since in the comics, apparently car batteries can be used to fire nanotech robots in a plasma suspension :-( )
It was that easy to remove the shrapnel? Then why didn't he have it down two years ago?
Reed Richards is useless. In the denouncement, Tony says he 'fixed' Pepper, but doesn't make Extremis do only limb growth/regeneration?
We get super Pepper, but no mention of Rescue. Since the first two movies had the armor names mentioned in passing, him saying she was his Rescue or something would be nice.
Tony's suffering PTSD, afraid to vulnerable, but wears a suit of untested prototype armor?
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Thanks Jeff!
I also saw the movie this weekend and honestly walked out of there still wondering if I liked it or not. That's... not good considering I walked out of Iron Man 1 & 2 super excited about what good movies they were. This one was just kinda... meh.
I think you pointed out most of the things that I couldn't quite nail down including:
1. Suit-less Tony in the middle was just too long.
2. The Mandarin switch was interesting but felt cheap since they'd built up the movie billing him.
I'll add: Iron Patriot going down like a chump irked me to no end.
And super powered Potts... why? That just felt kind of tacked on. And then to be resolved in the voice over epilouge? Uh... ok.
I'll also expand that "conservation of ninjitsu" was in effect for not only the suits but for Extremis soldiers. One takes down Iron Patriot with a touch but dozens of them are getting blown around left and right at the end. Sigh.
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I loved it. Felt it started a little slow, and the main villain was a little cliched, but I still loved it, and would go see it again.
I loved that it focused more on Tony outside the suit, and that the reason why the Iron Man suits are awesome is because he is awesome. I disagree with theJeff's analysis, I felt the whole point of the climax is that the whole reason the suit-fight at the end is so fantastic is because Stark was able to summon them all---and he built them and JARVIS, so they're nothing without him, they only perform so well because of him. Them not lasting long once he wears them isn't that he's the liability--it's that he's the primary target, so all of the heaviest shots were going to be targeted at him, whether he was wearing the suits or not, so damned good thing he was. The ending line sums it up: doesn't matter if he blows them all up, HE is Iron Man. That's what I took home from it. I guess your mileage may vary but to me he was the hero from start to finish.
I loved in particular him assaulting the mansion in the jury rigged gear, that just shows how good he is at what he does. Yeah, even if he gets captured at the end, it was still ultimately really cool.
I loved Pepper's role and really enjoyed her moment of badassery. I hope if there's another one he's built her the Rescue suit.
Really just had a ton of fun watching it, absolutely what a superhero movie should be in my personal opinion.
The main questions I'm still wrestling with are...
Was Killian: Killian, Fin Fang Foom, AND the Mandarin? Did they roll 3 villains into one dude? Is that really what happened? Because the whole fire-breathing, dragon tattoos thing had me convinced he was Fin Fang Foom. But then he roars at the end that he's The Mandarin. But he's also Aldrich Killian. /dizzy
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The Master was mentioned several times. Who was he? Was he even uncovered?
I saw the movie with my dad and he didn't want to stay through the credits - was there a post-credits treat like usual? What was it?
Yes;
It was a bit with Stark on a couch telling banner his problems, with Banner falling asleep.
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One other thing...
Also, while it was nice to see the kid get his Christmas Lab. I'd have liked to have seen some closure for the wife. Rhodey showing up and giving her an official notice of "No, your husband wasn't a suicidal kook." or something.
So, this was for the most part enjoyable. Slightly spoilerish general commentary to follow (though nothing specific).
I felt like the movie did a good job focusing on Tony Stark instead of Iron Man, which was a nice difference from the first couple movies. While Stark in the Iron Man armor as a whole he was very powerful, he never really showcased any kind of ability outside of building super suits. While that's intrinsic to the character, also intrinsic is the idea that this guy is a genius who can whip up novel solutions on the fly even without all of his gadgets, allies, and resources. That concept had been sorely neglected (particularly in the past two movies). This movie definitely fixes it, and goes back to the 'genius inventor / mechanic' roots. In some cases it goes over the top in doing so, but on the whole the chance of pace is enjoyable enough that I can gloss over Commando Tony Stark.
What I don't gloss over as easily is that the movie puts this focus on Tony Stark by turning the Iron Man suit into Tissue Paper Man. I'm sorry to see the recession has hit Tony Stark so badly that he can no longer afford the same quality of materials from the first couple of movies (to say nothing of Avengers). I'm not exaggerating when I say that it is comical the extent to which the armors are savaged by opponents from the beginning of the movie to the end - and I don't really care for the powering down. This is the same suit that stood up to advanced and formidable weapons in the hands of aliens in the last movie - to say nothing of trading blows with Thor and Loki. Seeing it destroyed and wrecked so easily and frequently didn't make a lot of sense to me. All these guys hit harder than Thor? Really?
I liked some aspects of the villain: others I really didn't like. On the whole I felt like he needed more development and a much better motive. The direction they took his powers was interesting, and I liked the dynamic it created, but it seemed like the writers got lazy with the idea instead of fleshing it out more. Biological vs. technological is a good direction to go with a villain for Iron Man. Why did they cut it short? I may comment more specifically later.
Also, where are Captain America, Black Widow, and Hawkeye in the middle of all the stuff going on? Shield? Or even simple domestic police? You guys don't get to build a giant continuity then just skip out on it when convenient.
Finally, I felt like the comedy, while amusing, was somewhat overplayed throughout the movie. Virtually not a scene goes by without some humorous tie in. Not the typical off color jokes and quips by RDJ either. Full on slapstick frequently that left me shaking my head and rolling my eyes. I appreciate that humor has been a big part of these movies, but it went in the wrong direction (I felt).
Overall it wasn't a bad movie, but it in no way lived up to my (admittedly) high expectations.
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Saw it over the weekend.Could have been alot better IMO. My thoughts on the lack of SHIELD:
But I do think that there should have been some kind of bigger federal law prescence. Mandrin was taking over airwaves and threating the US Presedent, they would be all over it.
My big issue was Tony "loosing everything" and having to relay on the damaged suit for awhile. he would have other fully operational suits placed at other places then his house. The Helicarrier, The tower in NYC. He goes to a phone and calls SHIELD for help.
A couple things that i really liked:
[spoiler]They showed how Yeltsen from IM1 met Tony. Nice little bit. I also loved the twist with Ben Kingsley's character. I never read the comic, so I have no issue there.
What I don't gloss over as easily is that the movie puts this focus on Tony Stark by turning the Iron Man suit into Tissue Paper Man.
They note that the suit he's currently working with is a prototype and has not been made fully combat ready yet. And he's the kind of obsessive who wants to keep tinkering with his new toy even when it would make all the sense in the world to get access to an older, more reliably model.
And otherwise, some of the firepower he gets hit with is pretty nasty.
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It was a good movie. Well made, good movement from act to act. All in all, very enjoyable. That said, it definitely lacked certain qualities that can be hard to describe at times. It did not grab me the way The Avengers grabbed me.
My biggest complaint about Iron Man 2 was Ivan Vanko. We were told the connection to Tony Stark, but I didn't feel the connection. It felt both strained and inconsequential. Iron Man 3 did a much better job at connecting the villain and hero together IMO.
The movie does focus on Tony Stark more than Iron Man, but I think that will always be true of a good superhero movie with one central hero. We, the audience, connect to Iron Man through Tony, so we need to have a strong connection to Tony first.
It's a really good movie that is definitely worth seeing. It lacks a certain quality that makes it a truly great movie though, IMO.
I loved it. Felt it started a little slow, and the main villain was a little cliched, but I still loved it, and would go see it again.
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Really just had a ton of fun watching it, absolutely what a superhero movie should be in my personal opinion.
I agree with what Deathquaker said above for the most part...
Also the 'twist' with the Mandarin does not mean what people seem to think it does.
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Spoilery stuff
My personal opinion is that it is the weakest Iron Man movie to date. It was ok for a single viewing, but I'm not going to rush out and watch it several times in the theater. Luckily Star Trek isn't out for another week, so Iron Man get a good showing for 2 weeks. After that, I wouldn't be surprised to see it disappear quickly.
He already did. He's getting a % of the profits from the movie.
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I didn't feel there was a dearth of Iron Man in Iron Man 3 at all. Part of what sets good superhero fare apart from pedestrian is how well it handles the story without a constant fight going on. If all a comic (or movie) can do is throw more and more fights at you, it doesn't really have much to say about the characters other than what can be said via CGI action. And that's pretty shallow, ultimately.
By the way, I loved the closing credit montage and music.