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Huzzah for spoilers!! No more training do you require. Already you know that which you need.
However, after re-watching the scene, I can totally see how he might have survived. They set it up nicely: Nicholas' body shielded him from the immediate threat, and helped block at least one side of the dumpster. Then Glenn uses his knife on the walkers trying to get at him from the three remaining sides, thus blocking more from getting to him. Although, really, other walkers should have been able to tear past those remains to get at him.
Ultimately, I think they did the exact thing (and really, the only thing) that everyone who thought he was alive had speculated on.
So....hopefully....Lucille.
Yeah, I'm thinking they're going for Carl loses and eye. I just hope that Son of Porch Dick either gets shot by Carl in turn, then eaten alive, or just gets straight up eaten alive. I'm guessing they'll then probably end up leaving the question of Carl's survival up in the air until the show picks back up.
I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of people getting eaten next episode. I find myself hoping the dude helping Rick with the wall is not one of them. I kind of like him. And Deanna - she's become way too feisty to get kibbled.

GM Niles |

I'm with you re:Glenn. However, I just a thought that it might be Morgan on the receiving end of Lucille... I think they have been setting him up for a brutal and series changing event. He is the one preaching "every life is sacred" and if he dies spectacularly standing up for his beliefs, it might be the impetus needed to keep Rick Grimes from losing the rest of his humanity and becoming the next Governor. re:SoPD Yeah he is gonna get eaten... I think fewer of the Alexandrians will die than you think. This is gonna be a "See what happens when you learn how to fight from us" type event imho. Maybe Rosita gets bit...and then Abraham comes back and has to put her down and realize he has been kind of a jerk.

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Color me unimpressed.....
Ron, you dumb f!**. Just get eaten already. You and your dumb f~, pansy-ass weakling of a brother.
Morgan, you shit for brains, weak-ass little b*@~*. You probably got that nice lesbian doctor-ish lady killed. Tara should put a bullet through your f$#!ing head.
Then again, one episode ago, Tara was nailing walkers one after another with head shots while trying to rescue Zippy the Food Hording Nutsack. Now, she can't even pop some snot-nosed little ex-goth nihilist badguy wannabe from 5 or so feet away with a clear line of sight. How f~!+ing dumbass shit stupid is that?
Low on action. Very boring overall. And the way they left it....I hope someone jams a knife in the back of that little shitbags head, just as payback for probably getting one or more of them killed.
"Mom! Mom! I'm a f#!#ing idiot."

voodoo chili |

Disagree. All the house scenes were great. W man stuff so-so, but I think the conflict between Morgan and Carol is interesting if a bit over the top.
Anyway, yes, it's a BIG set up and they stopped in the perfect spot for next season to start with a bang...
plus... all your enemy base belong to Negan.

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Holy crap! That was F+%+ING AWESOME!!!
Sam....yeah, that wasn't a surprise at all. Good riddance you weak ass little b$&.
Ron, nice try son of porch dick. You were an a~+*++%, just like your dad.
Rick and company - KICK ASS!!!! When I saw Rick grabbing the axe, I knew all hell was about to break loose. And the residents of Alexandria finally stepped up. Same with Father Gabriel and THE MULLET. They stepped up and showed they have what it takes.
Wolf boy may have been an a!&%*~&, but I think he redeemed himself in the end. After he was shot by Carol, you can see where he tackled those walkers to save the chunky chick.
Negan's boys got blowed up real good.
Loved that scene with Rick and Carl at the end.
Morgan, I hope you learned your f~%!ing lesson. Same with you Carol.
Lake of Fire!!!!
That's it for now. Can't wait for next week.

voodoo chili |

Interesting. I had the exact opposite reaction. I thought it totally lamed out.
I've thought that the TV show has been better than the comic so far, but it may have just jumped the shark.

GM Niles |

@Voodoo That's kinda how it plays out in the comics. Negan's first guys all get wasted. It's important for the next big development from Negan.
I'm with Aberzombie, I enjoyed the episode. I didn't get the whole lake of fire thing. I think it was just Nicotero enjoying his special effects a little bit too much (He's the director they get to do all those episodes that are effects heavy)
Son of Porch dick....lived up to his family name.

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My two cents...
Seeing the herd assaulting Alexandria, it made perfect sense to Daryl that he could lure the walkers into the flaming lake. After all, he couldn't take the time to lure them all out of town with a trail of fire from the truck. And, the water in the lake would slow their movement enough to ensure each walker caught fire to still burn it up. The only thing I felt was a little over the top was wasting a grenade from the grenade launcher to light it. But, otherwise, it made perfect sense to me. Great episode!

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Interesting. I had the exact opposite reaction. I thought it totally lamed out.
** spoiler omitted **
I've thought that the TV show has been better than the comic so far, but it may have just jumped the shark.
adds voodoo chili to the List of People to Eat First during the Zombiepocalypse

voodoo chili |

voodoo chili wrote:adds voodoo chili to the List of People to Eat First during the ZombiepocalypseInteresting. I had the exact opposite reaction. I thought it totally lamed out.
** spoiler omitted **
I've thought that the TV show has been better than the comic so far, but it may have just jumped the shark.
Fair warning, I'm rather spicy ; )

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What amazing new thing happened? Did they once again have a dramatic moment resultant from sheer stupidity?
How many times can someone be chased to his gun???
Zombies at the gate!! Shore up the defenses with those brittle pieces of rotted wood!
Oh no they got through. Run and get your gun!!!
Let's sleep in a prison OK I get top bunk! Why do we even have roommates?
Let's leave the cell doors wide open while we sleep, that is smarter than using an oversized carabinier to lock out zombies!
Bad guy has a tank, I have razor wire, if I could get him to roll through it his tank would stop and it would delay him a long time...

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GM Niles |

I'm with Voodoo, as we were watching and Jesus was revealed I said F*@+ yeah! she was kinda startled. (She's not a comic reader). So then of course I had to try and spoiler free explain who he was in the next commercial break. So my wife, who unknowingly is an excellent prognosticator, says to me "They are gonna lose that truck." She figured they were gonna wreck it.
She also called the Richonne thing like 2 seasons ago when they were hanging out together in the house( after the prison while Rick was recovering) and she was getting close with Coral.

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An entertaining episode, although I felt it was a bit slow at times…
And, WTF? Is Jesus some kind of ninja-commando?
The scenes with Carl and Ennid were…meh. However, I did love it when Carl led Walker Deanna to Spencer, then his explanation of his actions to Michonne.
Those bits with Spencer and Michonne were good. Spencer putting down Walker Deanna was a very well done scene. The character seems to be taking a turn for the better.
No Morgan or Carol. I was surprised.
I loved that last scene between Rick and Michonne. Throughout the episode, you could see the family dynamic that had been developing. It’s good that they can both find a bit of happiness with each other.
One other thing, I really liked that little scene with Carl and Judith on the porch, and him showing her the stars.
I look forward to seeing the upcoming expansion into other communities.

voodoo chili |

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An interesting set-up of things to come…
Abraham-Sasha-Rosita love triangle? I say…meh. Love conflict in the time of Walkerpocalypse is a good way for someone to get killed.
I love Rick’s looking around after dispatching Ethan….”What?”
Carl showing some responsibility by staying home and keeping Alexandria safe – I like it. I also loved his confrontation with Jesus, brief though it was, as well has his reaction to Rick and Michonne.
Gregory – what a douchebag. At least it was pretty clear to me that he was most definitely not completely in charge. Jesus has a lot of influence. And Maggie seemed pretty good at putting Gregory in his place.
Between sonograms, pancakes, and brake light glass necklaces, I’m not sure who their going to kill at the end of the season. Maybe Glenn? But maybe Abraham or Daryl.

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That was pretty interesting, but......
Also, attacking an enemy stronghold - Gee, it sure would be nice if they had a....rocket launcher. Just sayin.
Abraham's breakup - brutally honest, yet impressively efficient. Loved the dingleberry comment.
Rick can be scary, but I have a feeling Lucille will trump the Rick-scary.
Loved the little bit with Carol putting a cookie on Sam's grave. I'm surprised there was enough left of him to bury.
Jesus continues to impress me.

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That lady on the walkie-talkie seems nice. I'm sure they'll all talk out their problems, make friends, and then go home for some of Carol's cookies.
Speaking of that lady - they mentioned the name of the actress on Talking Dead, so I looked her up on IMDB. Apparently, she played the child Alia Atreides in the 80's David Lynch version of Dune. And now I feel very old.

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Wow. Yeah. I suppose I can stomach the passing of that period of time, since I was a teenager when that movie was released.
I'm a little skeptical of the part of their plan where
"Okay, here's the plan. We're going to wander around and attract walkers. If you see any that look like the guy we supposedly killed, cut off their heads and bring 'em back to the meeting spot. We'll have Jesus pick out the one that looks most similar and use that. Try to only bring back the fresher ones if you can, because these guys might be stupid, but they probably have at least average eyesight and a sense of smell."

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I was a little put off by last week's episode.....
I kind of understand why they did it, though. From what I've seen, the show has a large female audience. It's smart to try and cater to them with strong female characters. Keep those ratings going!
That being said, I still think the episode was well done. Writing was solid. Acting was superb. It was nice to see Alicia Witt, however briefly. Her death scene was fantastic.
Maggie and Carol showed off their resourcefulness and bad-assery. And Carol, in my opinion, showed that she is not yet the monster she could become, just by virtue of the fact she can still feel guilt and pain over the things she has to do.
I look forward to the last few episodes.

voodoo chili |

I was a little put off by last week's episode.....
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Well, that was both expected and unexpected…..
As always, the special effects were phenomenal. The arrow through the eye was very well done.
Nice to see Dwight again, and with his burned face. Now he just needs to get the crossbow back….
“Dibs is dibs!” Eugene is becoming another favorite, if only because the actor invests such effort into making him a dorky a%*+**+. And kudos on his shout out to RPGs. I look forward to his bullet manufacturing, though I think they’d be smarter to find a way to transport whatever tools and machines they need back to Alexandria.
Dick biting in the zombiepocalypse. That’s a new one.
Carol has gotten really weird lately. I wonder where she’s going to go.
Can’t wait for the last two episodes. I look forward to seeing the real Negan. No more of this “I am Spartacus!” routine.

GM Niles |

Abraham is honestly the best comic relief in any "serious" show I've ever watched. His line at the end of the episode to Eugene had both my wife and myself laughing so hard we missed the entire rest of the scene and had to rewind it.
re:Eugene I'm with you AZ, if you watch the Talking Dead afterward Josh McDermitt was so awesome it made me like his character that much more.

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Ouch!
Actually, with that little bit at the end there, I’m wondering if we may see two (or more) major deaths in the season finale. Daryl is, at the least, seriously injured. From the looks of it, and Dwight’s closing words, he took a bullet to the shoulder. Could be lethal. IF they keep in line with the comics, another long time character might also be not long for this world.
Carol may have moved into the realm of ridiculous shit with that machine gun up the sleeve crap. Although I did like when she pulled the spear out and stabbed that guy through the car. Nice move. Her M.O. now seems to be: meet new threats, pretend to be helpless until you can catch them off guard, profit! That’s only going to take her so far though. Eventually, she’ll run into someone who either isn’t moved by her helpless routine, or sees through it right away.
If you’re going to have scenes with “the feels” at least they did it to a good song – Johnny Cash for the win!
Looking forward to next week’s finale!