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Another idea is to put in the Deadman's chest and/or the module in as possible addons at lower levels.

As a preorder I get Razor Coast already. I'm adding in the 30$ for the players book and the character sheets. If I wanted the pdf for Deadman's Chest I would have to add 80$ (This is for the 110$ level which would be bumped up to the 150$). This is more than the hardcover would cost me to order from Paizo. Yes, I would get a signed copy of Razor Coast but I really don't want one. The more valuable a book might be the less I want to handle it. Getting it signed is nice on one hand but on the other it actually decreases the use I would get out of it. The module is also something I would consider as an addon. As it is I would have to pay an extra 195$ to get it. Even with DeadMan's Chest that would be about 100$ each for them. The math just doesn't make it worth it for me. Unless something changes I'll be staying at my current level and enjoying what I'm getting.

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Hey All,

Just to pile on with Lou's large post a little earlier: I think its also key to remember that Razor Coast is much MORE than an adventure. Its a GIGANTIC combination campaign setting and a huge modular adventure path as well. The content level is astounding. Especially when you consider that it won't really ever play the same way twice.

Hope that entices a few of ye landlubbers to plunge into the crimson waves. :-)


DaveMage wrote:
My only concern is pledging $150 for the 2 books (+PDFs) only to find that they are available afterwards at a lesser price (if it funds, of course). If they *won't* be available at a lesser price, then it's all good as is!

The unsigned books will retail after the KS for $100 (before shipping & tax). For the KS pledges, we estimated $95 for the main book, $15 for US shipping & handling, $20 for the signature, and $20 Retail for the player's guide which gave the $150 pledge. So you are getting a better deal on the KS since right off the bat you save $5 on the book, you get it signed, plus if we hit those bonus goals you'll receive those. And now you also get the PDF of Dead Man's Chest.


Blonde Frog wrote:
DaveMage wrote:
My only concern is pledging $150 for the 2 books (+PDFs) only to find that they are available afterwards at a lesser price (if it funds, of course). If they *won't* be available at a lesser price, then it's all good as is!
The unsigned books will retail after the KS for $100 (before shipping & tax). For the KS pledges, we estimated $95 for the main book, $15 for US shipping & handling, $20 for the signature, and $20 Retail for the player's guide which gave the $150 pledge. So you are getting a better deal on the KS since right off the bat you save $5 on the book, you get it signed, plus if we hit those bonus goals you'll receive those. And now you also get the PDF of Dead Man's Chest.

Thanks - I'm good. :)

However, being a Necro-FGG long-timer, I already have the print and PDF of Dead Man's Chest (and, well, everything else already available). ;)


Take my money already - I need that bonus module. And I so need to finally see this...

Also, I think I'll take the sheets and the PG. :)


Bill Webb wrote:

We are discussing how to add more content as a base pledge. I have to run all the numbers for cost--as it is it costs about $58/book just in art and printing (that does not account for shipping, damaged/lost books, overhead, maps, editing, taxes, or any of us making any money, nor does it account for the free books and postage we have to send), meaning at 1000 books (the $75k number), we probably cover everything except profit (though after market should make us whole).

If we don't fund, well, we should not have tried to make such an expensive book (and won't make it). I am pretty sure we will get there, but I also want everyone to feel like they got a good deal and it was worth it.

Its absolutely imperitive to me that you guys are happy with what is produced.I would rather not make this book than to have you guys be unhappy.

Maybe we should stay away from color books--they just cost too friggin' much unless you can print 10000 of them. I will not compromise on print and binding quality. It costs a ton extra to go through a textbook manufacturer, but our books won't fall apart under even abnormal use.

That being said--I am pretty sure we can add some material and get the page count up for a few dollars a book--which i think we can afford. Likewise, we may add a few bonus items (can't be free, since they cost us a lot, but we can price them cheap).

I am hearing "CONTENT" as the #1--so lemme see what rabbits I can pull out of my frog hat:)

Thank you for this. This is helpful to get an understanding of the whole process and cost.

For mine as a prepaid person from outside USA ( ie postage conscious) who is interested in adventures and content but not model boats, miniatures, sigmed books and the like I would like to be able to get the new adventure and the players guide. If this didn't add overly to postage I would want them as print but if it did I would want them as PDF 's . But the new adventure seems to require going to the $225 level - if it was available as a reasonably priced add on it may lure me in. Again if I was a dm planning on running this I would convince my players to get pdf's of the players guides each.

Hope that helps.


Bill Webb wrote:


Maybe we should stay away from color books--they just cost too friggin' much unless you can print 10000 of them. I will not compromise on print and binding quality. It costs a ton extra to go through a textbook manufacturer, but our books won't fall apart under even abnormal use.

That being said--I am pretty sure we can add some material and get the page count up for a few dollars a book--which i think we can afford. Likewise, we may add a few bonus items (can't be free, since they cost us a lot, but we can price them cheap).

I am hearing "CONTENT" as the #1--so lemme see what rabbits I can pull out of my frog hat:)

I myself appreciate and willing to pay extra for books at this price that will last the test of time. It is sad to see the cheap manuals fall apart under minimal use from WOTC and PAIZO, but I have to agree that full color may not be the best idea here. Yes, people want content not pretty color pages. I hope it does fund and am looking forward to it as our group has pledged toward it. I am wondering though how many can afford $300-$400 every six months especially for huge campaigns that one wonders if you will ever get to run. After all RA and The Slumbering Tsar should keep our group busy for at least the next several years to come. What I and our group would like to see is content to support what you already have out. How about working on the campaign setting for instance? Or smaller aides for it?


Blonde Frog wrote:


Well, we were going to wait to release this... but since Nick asked so nicely (Sorry Pett my trigger finger got happy)

** spoiler omitted **

Could you folks please, please, please put out the guidebook for Reme while you've got Casey at the computer?

Continued success.

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Blonde Frog wrote:


Well, we were going to wait to release this... but since Nick asked so nicely (Sorry Pett my trigger finger got happy)
** spoiler omitted **

Well...

At least Richard Pett had NOTHING to do with Razor Coast...

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Nothing, at all...

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Certainly nothing involving a stretch goal...

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That would finally break me, I think...

PETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! MY NEMESIS! YOU WOULDN'T DARE DABBLE IN MY CAMPAIGN SETTING!

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Or would you, you cad? ;-)


Nicolas Logue wrote:
Blonde Frog wrote:


Well, we were going to wait to release this... but since Nick asked so nicely (Sorry Pett my trigger finger got happy)
** spoiler omitted **

Well...

At least Richard Pett had NOTHING to do with Razor Coast...

...

...

Nothing, at all...

...

Certainly nothing involving a stretch goal...

...

That would finally break me, I think...

PETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! MY NEMESIS! YOU WOULDN'T DARE DABBLE IN MY CAMPAIGN SETTING!

...

Or would you, you cad? ;-)

It is only fair to mention that **spoiler omitted** isn't out yet. :-D

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

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Dark Sasha wrote:
It is only fair to mention that **spoiler omitted** isn't out yet. :-D

Spoiler Omitted sounds like an awesome band name...

Grand Lodge

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I prefer Redacted myself.

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

TriOmegaZero wrote:
I prefer Redacted myself.

Redacted Myself sounds more like a college band.

;)

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Nicolas Logue wrote:
Blonde Frog wrote:


Well, we were going to wait to release this... but since Nick asked so nicely (Sorry Pett my trigger finger got happy)
** spoiler omitted **

Well...

At least Richard Pett had NOTHING to do with Razor Coast...

...

...

Nothing, at all...

...

Certainly nothing involving a stretch goal...

...a

That would finally break me, I think...

PETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! MY NEMESIS! YOU WOULDN'T DARE DABBLE IN MY CAMPAIGN SETTING!

...

Or would you, you cad? ;-)

As if I would sully myself with such a notion...just to prove myself the master of razor coast...

Publisher, Frog God Games

news on content soon!

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Blonde Frog wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
John Benbo wrote:

Upped my pledge to add another book and some character pads. I wanted to get a S&W copy but then I remembered one of my friends making the mistake of saying that he wanted to try GMing and maybe doing a pirate themed campaign as something different. So even though it looks like I'm getting a copy as a gift for him, I really have ulterior motives which is ok as I hardly ever get to play as a PC (and I really want to try out a changling witch/gunslinger). Also, I want this thing funded so we can start digging for treasure!

On another note, now that you have Vaughn's "Slumbering Tsar" out and you're working on Logue's (with Lou Agresta) "Razor Coast" any plans to finish this trilogy of terror with an opus from Mr. Pett? A "Pettopus?"

Thanks for pledging John!

NO KICKSTARTERS FOR PETT! NOOOOOOOOO! Why must he have all that is mine! ;-)

Truthfully, I would snatch the chance to back anything from his deranged mind. But don't tell him that. He is a gift to the dark side in us all. Love that crazy Brit.

Well, we were going to wait to release this... but since Nick asked so nicely (Sorry Pett my trigger finger got happy)

** spoiler omitted **

Nice! I hope it comes standard with a typical Pettian insane asylum.

Lantern Lodge

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I think I'm wearing out my F5 button :) Already in, but I can't wait to see what else you have in store for my PCs.

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michaelane wrote:
I think I'm wearing out my F5 button :) Already in, but I can't wait to see what else you have in store for my PCs.

Keep your eyes glued for Bill's terrifying news. I have a feeling it will make all gamers very very happy, and make me very very sad. ;-)

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Richard Pett wrote:


As if I would sully myself with such a notion...just to prove myself the master of razor coast...

Keep your mitts off my campaign setting, damn your eyes!


Nicolas Logue wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:


As if I would sully myself with such a notion...just to prove myself the master of razor coast...

Keep your mitts off my campaign setting, damn your eyes!

We don't need color; I'm a dichromat anyway. Just need 50 Shades of Pett.....

Sovereign Court Contributor

As my daughter says, "Look with your antennae, not with your claws!"

Seriously, though, salmagundi's best with a large variety of unidentifiable ingredients. So add some diced Pett, some Logue-sausage, and a filet of Agresta for a more well rounded meal?


And some t'cho t'cho bacon.

OMMMMMMnomnomnomnom!!!!

Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games

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brvheart wrote:
How about working on the campaign setting for instance?

Never fear. It's being worked on. In fact, one of the cool things about FGG producing both Razor Coast and Richard Pett's upcoming "The Blight", is that it means that while you can certainly run them as is in your own campaign, they will also canonically be within the same FGG campaign world...along with Slumbering Tsar.

In all of our feature books (and even our little ones) I'm trying to release dribs and drabs of the FGG world setting, and RC is no exception. A close reading will reveal tantalizing clues about the setting that will all fit together when the setting comes out.

In fact, after RC and The Blight, the only big piece of the puzzle left before the campaign setting itself will be Sword of Air, which will reveal A LOT of the campaign world.

So to belabor your question just a bit more, the forthcoming FGG world will comprehensively include Razor Coast, The Blight, Rappan Athuk, Sword of Air, and Slumbering Tsar in one contiguous, consistent setting. (plus Ebon Shroud...plus Carcass...plus The Haunted Hills of Harrowfar...)

Plus don't forget the Northlands Saga, plus all the One Night Stand and Saturday Night Special adventures plus EVERYTHING EVER PREVIOUSLY RELEASED BY NECROMANCER GAMES*.

So, yeah, we're working on that too. ;-)

*Except the Judge's Guild stuff. We do not have the rights to that and the Wilderlands is its own setting anyway.


Yes, autographed copies of Alestorm's latest CD! I knew it! In case you're not familiar with them, they're a heavy metal band in the niche musical genre known as "pirate metal". They literally dress as pirates and sing songs about pirates.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

So to belabor your question just a bit more, the forthcoming FGG world will comprehensively include Razor Coast, The Blight, Rappan Athuk, Sword of Air, and Slumbering Tsar in one contiguous, consistent setting. (plus Ebon Shroud...plus Carcass...plus The Haunted Hills of Harrowfar...)

Plus don't forget the Northlands Saga, plus all the One Night Stand and Saturday Night Special adventures plus EVERYTHING EVER PREVIOUSLY RELEASED BY NECROMANCER GAMES*.

So, yeah, we're working on that too. ;-)

*Except the Judge's Guild stuff. We do not have the rights to that and the Wilderlands is its own setting anyway.

Is this confirmation that Ebon Shroud is also getting published by FGG?

What about other Sinister Adventures announced products? Still hoping to see the Known Universe stuff!

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Oooh very exciting!

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Tom Knauss wrote:
Yes, autographed copies of Alestorm's latest CD! I knew it! In case you're not familiar with them, they're a heavy metal band in the niche musical genre known as "pirate metal". They literally dress as pirates and sing songs about pirates.

No way? You're kidding me! That's almost as hot as Tiny Kiss. Linkify?

Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games

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JoelF847 wrote:
Greg A. Vaughan wrote:

So to belabor your question just a bit more, the forthcoming FGG world will comprehensively include Razor Coast, The Blight, Rappan Athuk, Sword of Air, and Slumbering Tsar in one contiguous, consistent setting. (plus Ebon Shroud...plus Carcass...plus The Haunted Hills of Harrowfar...)

Plus don't forget the Northlands Saga, plus all the One Night Stand and Saturday Night Special adventures plus EVERYTHING EVER PREVIOUSLY RELEASED BY NECROMANCER GAMES*.

So, yeah, we're working on that too. ;-)

*Except the Judge's Guild stuff. We do not have the rights to that and the Wilderlands is its own setting anyway.

Is this confirmation that Ebon Shroud is also getting published by FGG?

What about other Sinister Adventures announced products? Still hoping to see the Known Universe stuff!

If/when Rich and Nick write it, FGG will publish.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber
Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
If/when Rich and Nick write it, FGG will publish.

Swooooooooooon, get on with it then you two!


Louis Agresta wrote:
Tom Knauss wrote:
Yes, autographed copies of Alestorm's latest CD! I knew it! In case you're not familiar with them, they're a heavy metal band in the niche musical genre known as "pirate metal". They literally dress as pirates and sing songs about pirates.
No way? You're kidding me! That's almost as hot as Tiny Kiss. Linkify?

Your wish is my command.

http://www.alestorm.net/

Shadow Lodge

Greg A. Vaughan wrote:


Plus don't forget the Northlands Saga, plus all the One Night Stand and Saturday Night Special adventures plus EVERYTHING EVER PREVIOUSLY RELEASED BY NECROMANCER GAMES*.

So, yeah, we're working on that too. ;-)

*Except the Judge's Guild stuff. We do not have the rights to that and the Wilderlands is its own setting anyway.

Well, maybe not Necropolis or the Maze of Zayene or Mesopotamia...

I can pretty easily see Splinters of Faith fitting in, though.


Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
brvheart wrote:
How about working on the campaign setting for instance?

Never fear. It's being worked on. In fact, one of the cool things about FGG producing both Razor Coast and Richard Pett's upcoming "The Blight", is that it means that while you can certainly run them as is in your own campaign, they will also canonically be within the same FGG campaign world...along with Slumbering Tsar.

In all of our feature books (and even our little ones) I'm trying to release dribs and drabs of the FGG world setting, and RC is no exception. A close reading will reveal tantalizing clues about the setting that will all fit together when the setting comes out.

In fact, after RC and The Blight, the only big piece of the puzzle left before the campaign setting itself will be Sword of Air, which will reveal A LOT of the campaign world.

So to belabor your question just a bit more, the forthcoming FGG world will comprehensively include Razor Coast, The Blight, Rappan Athuk, Sword of Air, and Slumbering Tsar in one contiguous, consistent setting. (plus Ebon Shroud...plus Carcass...plus The Haunted Hills of Harrowfar...)

Plus don't forget the Northlands Saga, plus all the One Night Stand and Saturday Night Special adventures plus EVERYTHING EVER PREVIOUSLY RELEASED BY NECROMANCER GAMES*.

So, yeah, we're working on that too. ;-)

*Except the Judge's Guild stuff. We do not have the rights to that and the Wilderlands is its own setting anyway.

I understand and appreciate that. And, FYI our group has pledged for Razor Coast so we will be getting it WHEN it gets funded. Yeah, Judges Guild won't let me work on their setting anymore either. I will have to look at the Northlands Saga for inclusion.

Edit: My wife just informed me she has the Northland Saga and is running it in her campaign.


Link

FIFY


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Oh, hell yeah!

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ok. I think I just found the new soundtrack for my Razor Coast campaign. They're like Iron Maiden meets Flogging Molly and not as good as either. I LOVE it. Thank you.


Louis Agresta wrote:
ok. I think I just found the new soundtrack for my Razor Coast campaign. They're like Iron Maiden meets Flogging Molly and not as good as either. I LOVE it. Thank you.

The video was utterly priceless. It was even more over the top than I imagined it could be. Unfortunately, they don't have a forum on their site, but maybe they'd post a link to RC on their Facebook page. Maybe they're willing to play a set onboard the Pirate King cruise? Now that would totally rock!


Happy New Year!

Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games

Kthulhu wrote:
Greg A. Vaughan wrote:


Plus don't forget the Northlands Saga, plus all the One Night Stand and Saturday Night Special adventures plus EVERYTHING EVER PREVIOUSLY RELEASED BY NECROMANCER GAMES*.

So, yeah, we're working on that too. ;-)

*Except the Judge's Guild stuff. We do not have the rights to that and the Wilderlands is its own setting anyway.

Well, maybe not Necropolis or the Maze of Zayene or Mesopotamia...

I can pretty easily see Splinters of Faith fitting in, though.

Mesopotamia is obviously on Earth, so it won't be there (good catch). Khemit is in our world, however. As far as I know we can say the three Zayene modules Necro produced are linked to our world, though they really don't have much campaign-specific information in them anyway as they're very "modular" modules with a lot of action taking place either internally or in the Outer Planes/demiplanes. So they're pretty invisible on a campaign level anyway.

Splinters is absolutely in. One other exclusion will be the Hex Crawl Chronicles since John is essentially creating his own world with those. However, it will exist in the same universe as our world (probably same solar system even), and his Nod stuff will also have a direct link (which has me super excited, because I love his Nod stuff!)

And quite honestly in regards to Mesopotamia, while we won't directly do a "this portion of earth is on our world" type of thing, there is a very Mesopotamia-y section of the FGG world, so much of that stuff will probably port pretty directly over. Still deciding on all that though.


Update posted: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/razor-coast/posts

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

You beat me too it ;)

Been spreading this at: ENW and RPG.net. If supporters here have accounts there, come and throw your words of encouragement in the threads, shippers!

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And more sweetness added to the pot: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/froggodgames/razor-coast/posts/

Basically Frank Menzter (of BECMI fame) will write an adventure to go in the book, also the original Sinister Adventures' indulgences will be added too. By authors such as Wolfgang Bauer (Kobold Press), Richard Pett and Nic Logue. "We're adding this material to the Razor Coast Mega-Campaign volume to help take it to an estimated 350 pages for Pathfinder and 280 for Swords & Wizardry."
A big jump up in page count in a colour book!

The First bonus goal, at 80k, is a book with four adventures (by Richard Pett, Owen K Stephens, Gary McBride and Tom Knauss) which will be added free in PDF at $150 pledges, print at 250.

Also in the future is PFRPG and S+W ship-to-ship rules, to use lose lovely pirate ship minis. And Upgrading the Player's Guide to hard cover.

It is a pity this wasn't what was originally put out but hopefully people will come back for a second look!

Avast!

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Hopefully that stuff is correct!


Now you're cookin'!

Pledge increased to $250.

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DaveMage wrote:

Now you're cookin'!

Pledge increased to $250.

Yeah, I'm seriously considering upping my pledge to $250 as well.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

It makes me think too, I am on the 225 (plus added an extra S+W copy), for me another 10 shipping plus 25 for a mini that I won't use is not worth it (my painting skills are complete rubbish). But now it is another book!

Lantern Lodge

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What an amazing update! I was already in hook line and sinker, but this is going to be a helluva set of books. If you've been sitting on the sidelines, its time to get in. Remember, Kickstarters don't hit your card until they fund and the stretch goals don't start showing up until it kicks. Now to convince Mrs. Lane to let me up my pledge...

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Pett has his hooks in my Razor! ;-)

Glad that cat's out of the bag - oh yes, much goodness for ye mighty pledgers. Pett, even. Evil, insidious Pett!

Liberty's Edge

Mwahahahahaaa!


Old Man Whateley wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:


As if I would sully myself with such a notion...just to prove myself the master of razor coast...

Keep your mitts off my campaign setting, damn your eyes!
We don't need color; I'm a dichromat anyway. Just need 50 Shades of Pett.....

No color of this world, at least!

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Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar!

I must say, Angry Waters is very cool...and those updates are awesome.

I wonder if we can get a snipet of one or two places up, I'll pray to the Frog God.

Mnaaaaaaaar

Shadow Lodge

I keep having an internal berate with myself on whether or not I want an print copy of the Pathfinder version or if I'll just pick up the PF Pdf after release.


A little over halfway there! Things are looking up! We need more o that special rum found from that rowdy pirate captain from.. Carcass, of all places! Pass it around to get more donors. ; )

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