paizo.com Recent Posts in Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build advicepaizo.com Recent Posts in Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build advice2012-10-14T23:12:13Z2012-10-14T23:12:13ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#322012-10-16T05:24:37Z2012-10-16T05:24:37Z<p>Well, a better way is Furious Focus.</p>
<p>They can't hurt you, if they are dead.</p>Well, a better way is Furious Focus.
They can't hurt you, if they are dead.blackbloodtroll2012-10-16T05:24:37ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#312012-10-16T01:29:42Z2012-10-16T01:29:42Z<p>A feat slot and halving my damage instead of losing approximately 1/3 when going defensive. Also potentially the cost of armor spikes.</p>A feat slot and halving my damage instead of losing approximately 1/3 when going defensive. Also potentially the cost of armor spikes.Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-16T01:29:42ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#302012-10-16T01:24:22Z2012-10-16T01:24:22Z<p>Switching grips is a non-action. Cast a spell, then put two hands on your weapon.</p>
<p>What do you lose?</p>Switching grips is a non-action. Cast a spell, then put two hands on your weapon.
What do you lose?blackbloodtroll2012-10-16T01:24:22ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#292012-10-16T01:20:15Z2012-10-16T01:20:15Z<p>Spend Feat, Get additional equipment, all to... still have a less damaging threatening weapon if I need more AC or to use a hand to cast.</p>
<p>Which is what I'm doing already, so... why try to reinvent the wheel?</p>Spend Feat, Get additional equipment, all to... still have a less damaging threatening weapon if I need more AC or to use a hand to cast.
Which is what I'm doing already, so... why try to reinvent the wheel?Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-16T01:20:15ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#282012-10-16T01:14:28Z2012-10-16T01:14:28Z<p>Hey, my old Hobgoblin Inquisitor two handed.</p>
<p>Very Lawful, not Barbarian.</p>
<p>Besides, what's "complicated" about Armor Spikes?</p>Hey, my old Hobgoblin Inquisitor two handed.
Very Lawful, not Barbarian.
Besides, what's "complicated" about Armor Spikes?blackbloodtroll2012-10-16T01:14:28ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#272012-10-16T01:08:08Z2012-10-16T01:08:08Z<p>It's cute, and I could get spiked armor to threaten while not 2-handing, but it seems unnecessarily complicated.</p>
<p>Besides, if I wanted 2 handing I would have just made a barbarian.</p>It's cute, and I could get spiked armor to threaten while not 2-handing, but it seems unnecessarily complicated.
Besides, if I wanted 2 handing I would have just made a barbarian.Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-16T01:08:08ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#262012-10-16T00:55:09Z2012-10-16T00:55:09Z<p>Two Handed weapon is still a good path for you, and with the Shield of Swings feat, you can still be defensive.</p>Two Handed weapon is still a good path for you, and with the Shield of Swings feat, you can still be defensive.blackbloodtroll2012-10-16T00:55:09ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#252012-10-16T00:31:52Z2012-10-16T00:31:52Z<p>I'll be selling the Heavy, I was just saying it's been a useful piece of loot so far.</p>I'll be selling the Heavy, I was just saying it's been a useful piece of loot so far.Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-16T00:31:52ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#242012-10-16T00:26:22Z2012-10-16T00:26:22Z<p>You might as well nab a Heavy Flail, and Armor Spikes when you are holding the Heavy Flail in one hand to cast spells.</p>
<p>Power Attack and Furious Focus, and later Shield of Swings.</p>You might as well nab a Heavy Flail, and Armor Spikes when you are holding the Heavy Flail in one hand to cast spells.
Power Attack and Furious Focus, and later Shield of Swings.blackbloodtroll2012-10-16T00:26:22ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#232012-10-15T22:17:23Z2012-10-15T22:17:23Z<p>Since I'm actually a switch 1/2 hander, I'll stick with Power Attack. I'm definitely sticking to one-handed, but we looted that Mwk Heavy Flail off one of the early encounters and sometimes it's handy to switch to it (thank you door sight).</p>Since I'm actually a switch 1/2 hander, I'll stick with Power Attack. I'm definitely sticking to one-handed, but we looted that Mwk Heavy Flail off one of the early encounters and sometimes it's handy to switch to it (thank you door sight).Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T22:17:23ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceKillstringhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#222012-10-15T21:19:36Z2012-10-15T21:19:36Z<p>Fair. I suppose that doesn't much help you at 3rd. </p>
<p>Weapon Focus might not be a bad plan - if you come to a favorite between your flails. Getting an additional +1 to hit means you can use your Judgement for Destruction (which should be +2 damage at level 3) instead of Justice (which will be stuck at +1 to hit until level 5)</p>
<p>Power attack will be giving you -1 to hit, with +2 damage at this level. Using Justice, it's a <b>flat +2 to damage.</b></p>
<p>Weapon Focus will be giving you a +1 to hit. Using Destruction, it's <b>+1 to hit, +2 to damage. </b></p>
<p>Power attack is just less sexy for a 1-handed weapon Inquisitor, at least at this level. Weapon Focus will let you pick up Dazzling Display later, which will let you do the 30 foot intimidate bubble as a full-round action - your build will almost certainly be scaring the •••• out of people with that.</p>
<p>/$0.02</p>Fair. I suppose that doesn't much help you at 3rd.
Weapon Focus might not be a bad plan - if you come to a favorite between your flails. Getting an additional +1 to hit means you can use your Judgement for Destruction (which should be +2 damage at level 3) instead of Justice (which will be stuck at +1 to hit until level 5)
Power attack will be giving you -1 to hit, with +2 damage at this level. Using Justice, it's a flat +2 to damage.
Weapon Focus will be giving you a +1 to hit. Using...Killstring2012-10-15T21:19:36ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#212012-10-15T21:05:58Z2012-10-15T21:05:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Killstring wrote:</div><blockquote><p> You're a Half-Orc Inquisitor. </p>
<p>I know I've been singing the praises of intimidating things around these parts, but it's not hard to make your intimidate score truly heinous. <b>Anything that lets you intimidate what you hit</b> (feats like Cornugon Smash, spells like Blistering Invictive) <b>is your friend. </b></p>
<p>Speaking as somebody playing an admittedly non-optimized Half-Orc Inquisitor of Desna (the Desnian faith's got to have what, two or three of those tops? :) ) intimidating everything in sight has been truly delightful. </blockquote><p>The invective is good once I can cast 2nd level spells, but Smash isn't in a book that's allowed.Killstring wrote:You're a Half-Orc Inquisitor.
I know I've been singing the praises of intimidating things around these parts, but it's not hard to make your intimidate score truly heinous. Anything that lets you intimidate what you hit (feats like Cornugon Smash, spells like Blistering Invictive) is your friend.
Speaking as somebody playing an admittedly non-optimized Half-Orc Inquisitor of Desna (the Desnian faith's got to have what, two or three of those tops? :) ) intimidating...Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T21:05:58ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceKillstringhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#202012-10-15T20:00:17Z2012-10-15T20:00:17Z<p>You're a Half-Orc Inquisitor. </p>
<p>I know I've been singing the praises of intimidating things around these parts, but it's not hard to make your intimidate score truly heinous. <b>Anything that lets you intimidate what you hit</b> (feats like Cornugon Smash, spells like Blistering Invictive) <b>is your friend. </b></p>
<p>Speaking as somebody playing an admittedly non-optimized Half-Orc Inquisitor of Desna (the Desnian faith's got to have what, two or three of those tops? :) ) intimidating everything in sight has been truly delightful.</p>You're a Half-Orc Inquisitor.
I know I've been singing the praises of intimidating things around these parts, but it's not hard to make your intimidate score truly heinous. Anything that lets you intimidate what you hit (feats like Cornugon Smash, spells like Blistering Invictive) is your friend.
Speaking as somebody playing an admittedly non-optimized Half-Orc Inquisitor of Desna (the Desnian faith's got to have what, two or three of those tops? :) ) intimidating everything in sight has...Killstring2012-10-15T20:00:17ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#192012-10-15T02:24:35Z2012-10-15T02:24:35Z<p>That's not really a good trade.</p>
<p>Furious Focus is pretty dang good with Power Attack.</p>
<p>Maybe later, if you fancy it.</p>That's not really a good trade.
Furious Focus is pretty dang good with Power Attack.
Maybe later, if you fancy it.blackbloodtroll2012-10-15T02:24:35ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#182012-10-15T02:15:45Z2012-10-15T02:15:45Z<p>Yes, the first time I have an open feat slot is level 7, 5 if I don't take Furious Focus</p>Yes, the first time I have an open feat slot is level 7, 5 if I don't take Furious FocusDarigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T02:15:45ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#172012-10-15T02:11:45Z2012-10-15T02:11:45Z<p>I see your point.</p>
<p>Quickdraw will make the shield way more useful, but you are feat starved.</p>I see your point.
Quickdraw will make the shield way more useful, but you are feat starved.blackbloodtroll2012-10-15T02:11:45ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#162012-10-15T02:05:08Z2012-10-15T02:05:08Z<p>I still don't see the see the benefit of using a swift action to get the same benefit as a nonaction.</p>I still don't see the see the benefit of using a swift action to get the same benefit as a nonaction.Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T02:05:08ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#152012-10-15T02:01:18Z2012-10-15T02:01:18Z<p>You threaten with the Flail.</p>
<p>You can also switch grips when using your Flail as a nonaction.</p>You threaten with the Flail.
You can also switch grips when using your Flail as a nonaction.blackbloodtroll2012-10-15T02:01:18ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#142012-10-15T01:48:57Z2012-10-15T01:48:57Z<p>Quickdraw shield requires a swift action, so I'm either shielded for a turn with no threatening weapon except the shield bash, or not shielded using a 2-hander and no hand to cast spells.</p>
<p>Buckler if I need the shield bonus or to cast I simply one-hand the flail that turn.</p>Quickdraw shield requires a swift action, so I'm either shielded for a turn with no threatening weapon except the shield bash, or not shielded using a 2-hander and no hand to cast spells.
Buckler if I need the shield bonus or to cast I simply one-hand the flail that turn.Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T01:48:57ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#132012-10-15T01:44:19Z2012-10-15T01:44:19Z<p>Buckler will lose it's shield bonus to AC the moment you two hand the Flail and attack. </p>
<p>It will be lost for your whole turn, and will only be back for the short time during the beginning of your turn before you attack.</p>
<p>Quickdraw Shield will provide it's bonus the entire time when it's not your turn. </p>
<p>Avoid Craft feats.</p>Buckler will lose it's shield bonus to AC the moment you two hand the Flail and attack.
It will be lost for your whole turn, and will only be back for the short time during the beginning of your turn before you attack.
Quickdraw Shield will provide it's bonus the entire time when it's not your turn.
Avoid Craft feats.blackbloodtroll2012-10-15T01:44:19ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#122012-10-15T01:37:49Z2012-10-15T01:37:49Z<p>Alright then, I am convinced on Power Attack.</p>
<p>I don't see how a Quickdraw shield would help me more than a buckler and 1-hander would.</p>
<p>Is craft wand worth it?</p>Alright then, I am convinced on Power Attack.
I don't see how a Quickdraw shield would help me more than a buckler and 1-hander would.
Is craft wand worth it?Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T01:37:49ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#112012-10-15T01:23:19Z2012-10-15T01:23:19Z<p>Furious Focus will help, and you have many self buffs.</p>Furious Focus will help, and you have many self buffs.blackbloodtroll2012-10-15T01:23:19ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#102012-10-15T01:20:38Z2012-10-15T01:20:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Never mind the Starknife route. You are not built for it. </p>
<p>A Quickdraw shield might be a better choice, as you can two hand your flail, then draw/ready your shield for added AC when it's not your turn. </p>
<p>Power Attack, and then Furious Focus later is a good choice.</p>
<p>You can can use Litany of Sloth and True Strike to make good use of the Disarm and Trip features without investing feats. </blockquote><p>Wow! Littany of Sloth is good. I don't look at the books beyond Core and APG so I probably would have never found that.
<p>Between eventual Outflank and Judgement do I have enough boosts to make up for the Power Attack penalty to hit?</p>blackbloodtroll wrote:Never mind the Starknife route. You are not built for it.
A Quickdraw shield might be a better choice, as you can two hand your flail, then draw/ready your shield for added AC when it's not your turn.
Power Attack, and then Furious Focus later is a good choice.
You can can use Litany of Sloth and True Strike to make good use of the Disarm and Trip features without investing feats.
Wow! Littany of Sloth is good. I don't look at the books beyond Core and APG so I...Darigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T01:20:38ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#92012-10-15T01:13:46Z2012-10-15T01:13:46Z<p>Never mind the Starknife route. You are not built for it. </p>
<p>A Quickdraw shield might be a better choice, as you can two hand your flail, then draw/ready your shield for added AC when it's not your turn. </p>
<p>Power Attack, and then Furious Focus later is a good choice.</p>
<p>You can can use Litany of Sloth and True Strike to make good use of the Disarm and Trip features without investing feats.</p>Never mind the Starknife route. You are not built for it.
A Quickdraw shield might be a better choice, as you can two hand your flail, then draw/ready your shield for added AC when it's not your turn.
Power Attack, and then Furious Focus later is a good choice.
You can can use Litany of Sloth and True Strike to make good use of the Disarm and Trip features without investing feats.blackbloodtroll2012-10-15T01:13:46ZRe: Forums: Advice: Inquisitor about to hit level 3, need build adviceDarigaaz the Igniterhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p1fk?Inquisitor-about-to-hit-level-3-need-build#82012-10-15T00:48:11Z2012-10-15T00:48:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Wait, what is your race?</p>
<p>What books are allowed? </blockquote><p>Half-Orc. My bad for not including it in the build. Books allowed are Core, APG, UM, UC, and ARG. aka anything the GM can look up on the PRD, which probably also includes the bestiaries and GMGblackbloodtroll wrote:Wait, what is your race?
What books are allowed?
Half-Orc. My bad for not including it in the build. Books allowed are Core, APG, UM, UC, and ARG. aka anything the GM can look up on the PRD, which probably also includes the bestiaries and GMGDarigaaz the Igniter2012-10-15T00:48:11Z